The Bitcoin Group, the American Original. For over the last ten seconds, the sharpest Satoshi's, the best Bitcoin's, the hardest crypto currency talk. We'd like to welcome our panelists, Martin Wismer from General Bites. Bumdiah Crypto. Dan Eve, the crypto raptor. Happy Friday. And I'm Thomas Hunt from the World Crypto Network, moving on to issue one. Bitcoin recovers after touching one month low. The price of Bitcoin is going down again, but they say it might go up as well. The latest news claims that the Mt. Gox exchange might actually pay people back and pay them back in Bitcoin, which could crash the market again. Welcome back Mt. Gox and welcome back Bitcoin price uncertainty. Martin Wismer will Mt. Gox crash the price of Bitcoin yet again. Many of the people that have lost Bitcoin on Mt. Gox, the price was around $1,000 back then. So yeah, I think some will think, well, you know, it's time to sell all this hassle. I lost all my coins. I got tiny little bit back. I still make a profit if I sell now. Let's just sell and grab some profits. On the other hand, I think there will be enough whales that will think like, you know, buy did it by the dip. Personally, I'm not selling a single Satoshi, you know, price will climb up very fast. It's good that these Bitcoin hit the market because it will give a little bit of liquidity. I wouldn't worry too much. If the price dips, it will be up in a few weeks. So don't worry about it. Well, it's funny because I looked at my screenshots. It shows me screenshots from this day sometimes and three years ago on this day, the price of Bitcoin was around $5,000 and it had just fallen 20% from $6,000. So once again, to say that we were at $69,000 and we've crashed to $60,000 when it was worth $5,000, three years ago, it's just people don't have any kind of understanding of this market. This calls something a crash. I've seen crashes. We went down 90% one time. That's a crash. This is a correction. Dan, Eve, your thoughts on Bitcoin price movement and the return of our good friend, Mt. Gox. Yeah, it's pretty incredible. Dispribing it is like a huge like earth, chapter in crash because, you know, saying that Bitcoin crashed all the way down to $59,000 still sounds just so incredibly alien, right? You know, it was like, it's like $5,000 when it went dropped from 6 to 5 and it's like, oh, 20%. And now that $1,000 drop is just, it's nothing. You know, it was $multi-thousand moves in a day. And I'm not sure how many Bitcoin are going to be released back on from Mt. Gox. But I agree with Martin, there's going to be like a nice mixture, I think, of people that probably thought, well, hey, I wouldn't have held the Bitcoin all the way from $1,000. I probably would have sold some along the way. So they're kind of seeing it as a good thing and they'll probably maybe sell a bit of profit. And then you've got the hardcore hodlers that would be like, hey, I would have never sold anything anyway. You know, and so they will keep on holding until it's 100k plus, you know, the laser-eye crew. There's got to be a few of those guys in there. Ultimately, we were almost seeing a double top and, you know, not reaching the previous high from all time high earlier on this year, but obviously we smashed through that. And that kind of makes me think that this momentum is going to keep on going, right? It's just going to pop again. And it's December, like coming up, like what was in 2017, it was around about the 17th, I think, that we reached 17th 18th, we reached all time high. So we may see a bit of like history repeating, the will of the people, looking back at the charts of destiny and looking at those days and suddenly buying, you know, in advance of the 17th, 18th knowing that loads of other people are going to move the markets as well, because it's a very reactive market, right? People tend to read a basic bit of information from, say, Elon Musk and suddenly, you know, buy, buy, buy. It's very kind of, yeah, it's a very emotional market. And I think we're going to see some similar patterns that we saw in 2017 and some new all-time highs. It's 140,000 bitcoins. That's what I read somewhere. So that's quite a lot of Bitcoin. So that's what's 59,000. That's 8.2 billion. But that's only 8.2 billion is about 8% of the, 8.5% of the, the, the, the, the current total market cap of like 1.1 trillion. So it's a, it's a reasonable amount, but it's not a huge, huge amount. I think Michael Sala will buy more. I agree with Martin here. We've got this is another one of those non-issue issues where they know that there's going to be a huge release of Bitcoin, something like a Black Friday sale. And they're just waiting there with their money, the, the rich people and all the other people are freaking out. The price is going up and down. And what am I going to do? And everyone else is just, they're greedy and they're trying to get more cheap Bitcoin. So when it hits that mark, they're going to buy and they'll stack right on top of each other and they'll drive it right back up. And everyone who sold and freaked out in the mid time and they're like, oh, I saw my value. You're just watching it too closely. If you just watch it once every three years, you'd be like, oh, 5K, 60K. This is the greatest thing ever. But we don't watch things every three years. We're trained by CNBC. We're trained by the Wall Street Journal to check your stocks every day. When everyone knows if you like a company, if you like Apple or you like Tesla or Rivian or whatever the new thing is, you buy it because you like it and you buy it long. You wait. They make their products. They're successful. They're not successful. That doesn't happen over the span of a day. It's not like Tesla became a bad investment yesterday, but it's a good investment tomorrow. It's good over three years or it's not good. They trained you to check every day. So you check every day. So you freak out at every little movement where the people who don't care, the people who have money, they don't check it every day because they don't care. They're just sitting back. Thomas, wasn't it Warren Buffett that said investing is the transfer of wealth from the impatience to the patient? That seems like what's happening now. I think this is definitely the way we're going. Moving on to the exit question, competing against the predictor of predictors, the Bitcoin ball, the source of all truth and knowledge in the universe. We should make whole videos about this thing. This is smarter than any trade or any predictor, any triangle. The price of Bitcoin this time next week, Martin Wissmer, higher or lower. Next week will probably be a little bit higher. Yes. I'm bullish. Dan Eve. I'm still going for 69 for 20. I think I missed it last week. 69 for 20. Here we are asking the predictor ball. You have to give it a lot of money. It likes to hang out and do buy. It doesn't like to be where we are. Will the price be higher this time next week? Outlook good. Outlook good. The ball has spoken. If you needed investment advice, trust the ball. No one else knows anything. What was done? Price. Just really quickly. It really peaked my debt at my interest last month. We were talking about timeframes. There was a tweet from Bitcoin just at the bog standard at Bitcoin. It was the October 14th Bitcoin price. I'll just reel through them really quickly. Even if your time preference is just one year, 2010, 10 cents, $20, 11, $1, 2012, $11, 2013, $135, 2014, 408, 2015, 248 down a bit. This is like doing the charts, isn't it? 2016, 639, 2017, 5,692 massive leg up there. 2018, 6,226, 2019, 8,310, 2020, 11,393, and then boom, 2021, 57, 405 dollars. So who can only imagine what it's going to be next year and beyond? And I know it's not all about price. And the great part about tracking it yearly is that you only have to do one show a year. You only have to watch one show a year. You only have to buy one issue of the Wall Street Journal every year. As long as you can track this yearly, you'd be fine. But again, YouTube algorithm rewards people that do it every day. YouTube algorithm loves those clickbait headlines about how much you're going to make. And this and that and this new shit coin and all that stuff. You don't need that. You could just buy it, go away, check it once a year, but you don't have that much patience. You love watching it every day. It's part of the fun. Moving on to issue two, Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton fears that Bitcoin will undermine the dollar as the world reserve currency. Hillary warned what looks like a very interesting and somewhat exotic effort to literally mine new coins in order to trade with them has the potential for undermining currencies, for undermining the role of the dollar as the reserve currency for destabilizing nations, perhaps starting with small ones, but going much larger. We are not here to dump on Hillary Clinton like so many people would prefer. I believe we're here today to say that Hillary Clinton is right. Bitcoin will destabilize nations. It will undermine the dollar as a reserve currency and we've been saying it for years. Dan Eve is Hillary Clinton right. Unfortunately, she actually is though she's spot on the money. It's almost like she doesn't realize what Bitcoin's about hasn't really done a lot of research. She's like, yeah, but it's going to it's going to undermine fear. Yeah, but it's going to undermine government. Yeah. You know, these are all the things that kind of they're the root of Bitcoin and why it was created out of the birth of Bitcoin out of the financial crisis. But once again, it's kind of it does seem it's a bit of a politician coming up with problems, not solutions, saying kind of stuff that's a bit whiff or waffly like that it's going to destabilize nations. How might it destabilize currencies, but how it's going to destabilize nations is another story. Maybe it's referring to say, I know, a bit more detail would be good, but I'm theorizing like, I don't know, North Korea stacking Bitcoin and then suddenly North Korea is a powerhouse and that's worrying to destabilize other nations that might be it. But also about I love that the remarks about about disinformation and and and and and you know, you just think about well, all the disinformation there is nowadays and I must admit, my favorite Hillary Corker, which I which I remember recently, as she said recently, I think it was recently was that was she applied for NASA when she was a little girl, a NASA said no, and then someone did the mass on it and they were like, NASA wasn't invented then. So so that's disinformation too. So big up Bitcoin. It reminds me of a lot of a few years ago when President Obama said that Bitcoin was like a Swiss bank account in your pocket. And I think I and every other Bitcoin are like, well, yeah, and isn't that awesome? And that's not at all what President Obama meant. Martin Wismer, your thoughts on Hillary Clinton and the destruction of the US dollar. I think she is right in a way. You know, there's a limited amount of Bitcoin is like 21 million. Sure, the US dollar has been used as it's still being used as the world's reserve core currency. But like not not not long after the Second World War ended, all the finance ministers from all the European nations came together and I don't know, the US finance minister was and they asked him like, you know, his dollar thing as a reserve currency. You know, this is how does his work? Well, you keep printing them. He said, yes, it's our currency and your problem. And now it's the other way around. Now it's Bitcoin. That's our currency and it's their problem. And I think it is good in a way that we are seeing a stateless, bide people currency becoming a world standard. And yeah, it would not have happened if the central banks globally, not just the Fed, but you know, also the ECB and every other central bank would have been going on a printing rampage during the past what years, I believe there's more dollars printed in the past year, alone or two years than they have been in the 100 years before that. It's just downright insane and it's basically, it's stealing, it's causing inflation and that's stealing from everyone. And now everyone is pissed off with this, sorry for my wording, but they're not happy with this and they have a plan B and plan B is a coin. So I think it's, you know, yeah, I think Hillary in that way is right. The only thing is she's 13 years too late with realising it. So good luck in trying to stop it now, you know. Martin, you're still a little quiet. Try to move closer to the microphone. Yeah, okay. But I do agree. And let's move on to the exit question as Martin was mentioning inflation. Is this the major inflation event that bit corners have been waiting for? Is this the beginning of hyperinflation or is this just a bump in the road caused by supply problems and the coronavirus? Dan Eve inflation. Yes or no? Well, inflation is very bad, but what's really interesting is how many dumb articles that we're seeing recently going, inflation is a good thing. It's like that real cool meme that's going round that's like inflation is really bad. Inflation is okay. Inflation is just transitory. Inflation is amazing. Like what where did how, where's the logic? Well, how does that even come in? Like how is it? How, how is it logical that inflation is a good thing that like a loaf of bread, even though like wages aren't rising, but because we're printing money out of thin air, a loaf of bread is like 20 cents one year, 25 cents the next year. Nothing's rising in line with it. It makes absolutely no sense. Stop printing money. It's ridiculous. Martin Wishmeier. I forgot the exit question, Thomas. I was so focused on that. I still quite got to go close on the microphone. I forgot. I think it isn't, man. People don't mind seeing a microphone. They're okay with it. I forgot the exit question. Inflation. Is this the inflation bump that everyone's waiting for? Or is it just another bump in the road? I don't think we've seen anything yet. Prices are going up. At general buys, we make Bitcoin at 8,000. It's really crazy how prices of all the components go up. It's not just some components. It's even the price of steel has been going up like crazy. Or the price of food and ballots to transport stuff. Or the price of transport. Everything is going up. And it's going up faster than I think they thought it would go up. And it's not just temporary. This is a permanent price increase we're seeing for everything. Like in the restaurants, groceries, everything is up. And electricity prices in the Netherlands, they went up sometimes 800%. So like eight times, it's ridiculous. And there's nothing good about inflation. Its inflation is the politicians and the central banks creating more money to steal from everyone. Bad inflation, bad. Bitcoin goes inflation bad. See, now, you Bitcoiners are hardlocked to hang out with. You're all rooting for hyperinflation that destroys the economy. And pretty much ruins everyone around us, except the Bitcoiners. They'll be fine. So I don't think this is hyperinflation. I agree with Martin. This is bigger than they thought inflation is larger. I think it's around six to eight percent. It might go up more. It pretty much directly caused by the coronavirus economy shutdown, economy restart, the supply chain problems. Remember when that boat was wedged in the Suez Canal? And you said, what does that got to do with me? I don't care about big tankers being wedged in the Suez Canal, but it backed up all the other boats. In the same way, the coronavirus, having all these factories shut down even for a day, even for a week, backed up all these factories. So we have a legitimate supply chain problem. Example, you go to IKEA. You can't get the right color bookcase anymore. And I used to go to IKEA all the time for bookcases. Now all my bookcases are random colors. And I just deal with it because the supply chain is F'd and I want to put my stuff on shelves. So I don't think we're at end of the world hyperinflation yet. I also don't think in America that the infrastructure bill is going to add to inflation. It's a fascinating thing. You've got to study where the money spent. But if you're spending the money on roads and bridges and things that contribute to the economy, government spending can actually make the economy go up. I know it's shocking. It's horrifying. But everything's a shade of gray. You really have to study more details. The build back better bill, the second half, the social safety net. That's a little bit more that might cause inflation. So I'll give you that one. But the infrastructure one, that's all good. As far as hyperinflation end of the world, we're not there. As far as, like Hillary is saying, overturning the petro dollar, we're not there. But it's like the old joke that they say from the 20s. How did you go broke, Mr. Rockefeller, at first slowly and then all at once. So we won't really know it till we run over it. And when we really run over it, yeah, it's going to be like, Kormick McCarthy's the road, right? It's going to be desperate and awful. And you think your citadel's are great. But there was a reason they built those castle walls, right? To keep the invaders and the barbarians out. And if you look at China, they built a great wall. You can see it from space. And the Mongols, who people think of as uneducated, a Kubla Khan was certainly not. And the Mongols just rode around the wall. So however big your wall is, however nice your citadel is, maybe it's on the planet Mars, there's going to be some peasants nearby. And they're going to walk around your walls. I say it all the time and I like saying it. But as General Patton said, fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man. So be flexible. Keep moving. Don't show off your wealth. Don't build a big castle. It's like putting a big target on your back. I own a castle. Not a good thing to say in the middle of hyperinflation. But it's okay. You Bitcoiners can learn manners when the world collapses. Check out Kormac McCarthy's book, The Road. That's fantastic, but very depressing. Moving on to issue three, Perth Heat becomes the first pro baseball club to accept Bitcoin payments and send Bitcoin payouts to players and staff using the lightning network. The only problem is the Perth Heat play in Australia. It's not even an American team. Martin Wismer, what do you think about this Australian baseball team? Accepting Bitcoin and using lightning, which I think is a fantastic change. And I like to see that in the headline of the article. Great stuff. I don't think anybody living in Perth has ever heard of this team. I don't think Perth Heat is such a big thing in Perth. And it's like in Amsterdam, they have a baseball team. I don't even know the name. It's not a big thing there. I think they play cricket or something. What would they play in Australia? I wish we'd have asked Josh, he's not on the show tonight, but he would have known. He would have definitely known the answer. So it's good that they accept Bitcoin and all and that they're giving up Bitcoin. It's all great, but it's not the old star league since they do have in the US. So yeah, it's like a next subject, please. I'm being told the Amsterdam team is the Amsterdam stoners, the Amsterdam stoners. No, that's just you told us. No, no, they have a name, but I don't know what the name is. He can't remember his having memory problems. Uh oh, Dan, Eve, your thoughts about the amazing Australian baseball team, the Perth Heat, go Perthers. Well, I think it's pretty impressive that jumping in like head first, right? So in the salaries in Bitcoin, they're going to be accepting tickets, do accepting adverts, advertising sponsorship. You know, they're pretty much going all in. And obviously the coolest thing is that they're using lightning, but I think via open node, maybe they should run their own note that that should have been better. In fact, what would have been called as if Perth said, we're actually setting in up an LN bits while it, that would be really cool. But ultimately, I like some of the, that have come out of this, the team, you'd expect like, you know, some, some senior economists to be saying this, rather than like, you know, a baseball team. But I mean, listen to this, like this is for the, this is how, this is how far they are down the rabbit hole. We firmly believe that the mindset of studying it on Australia, we firmly believe that the mindset, the Bitcoin and parts on network participants will be felt by our players, coaches, staff and our local fanbase. And we look forward to setting the bar, how much value a sport, I wait for that, that's what the CEO said, wait, one creek, one creek, this is the one, I like to say. Sorry, the Perth, he committed to operating in court into the Bitcoin standard. And in doing so, a shifting the corporate treasury from dollars to Bitcoin, the club has already established an initial position in BTC to help us secure its digital property rights on the world's most secure monetary network. And we'll continue to reinvest all available capital into Bitcoin. Now, that is head first, right? You'd expect that to be like, you know, not from a baseball team, right? But that is absolutely incredible. Like they are going, they are going deep down the rabbit hole and fair play. So even though they may not be, they may not be, you know, the biggest of organizations, I think it sets, you know, the end of the day, it sets a, sets an example and people who are into Perth, but you know, baseball, this is how the virus spreads, right? They hear this, they hear this, they have actually got a chief Bitcoin officer. That's amazing. Perthy, chief Bitcoin officer, Patrick O Sullivan. So what a legend, Patrick O Sullivan is spreading the seed of Bitcoin. I think it's fantastic. Yeah, but, but I think next step is to an open note of calling everything, but set up your own LN bits and then you're really smashing it. Excellent accent, Dan. Moving on to the exit question. Mark Cuban has flirted with Bitcoin accepting Dogecoin for his Dallas Mavericks. But what major sports team will follow the Perth heat? Who will accept Bitcoin next? Will it be an entire league? A team? Maybe some of the players I know in the US have asked for their salaries in Bitcoin, started off with percentages. Some of them going all in. I'll take all my money in Bitcoin. Martijn Wismair, what sports team will be next? I don't know, I don't know the name, but I think it will be individual players. It's just a sign of the times. I think people, sorry, it's a bit quiet probably. People make a lot of money in the, at least, make a lot of money. More than they actually need. There's no sense in keeping it in the bank account somewhere because they'll be paying interest instead of receiving it. Putting some of it, or all of it in crypto, especially Bitcoin, is actually makes sense. I think it will be more and more individual players and those individual players will create interest within the team. More and more people in the team will want to be paid in Bitcoin. I think many will just receive their dollars or the euros or whatever, fee out currency and then convert it themselves. So, I don't know a specific team. It's for me that's too hard. I know several Dutch soccer teams, they started, like, doubling in crypto. One created their own shit coin, which was like a bit of mistake. But I think it's all a learning process. What team, I don't know, leave it to you. What I like about this is it takes a lot of the complexity out of being a rich sports player. At first, you have to hire a money manager and he runs off with your money. And then you go through Goldman Sachs or whatever and they invest in a crappy stock and it goes down. Or you go with traditionally, you buy bonds, you keep it in a savings account. I don't know what you're supposed to do. But there's all these hassles and hazards when it comes to being a player. And you just want to focus on on football or baseball or whatever your sport is. You don't really care about money management. Now, if you choose Bitcoin, there's a good chance that you'll make a nice return. It'll be protected against inflation. If you set it up properly, it won't be stolen from you even by your money manager. If you really set it up properly and put the receipt or whatever in your safe, not his safe, your safe. But the problem is Bitcoin being compared to all these other altcoins as if they were interchangeable. So you'll have a player out there who will bet his life savings on Solana or Dogecoin or Mintcoin or Vertcoin or Peercoin or Worldcoin. And he'll have the same feeling that the other guys do about Bitcoin. It'll be like, everything is fine. I'm in Worldcoin. I'm in Aurora coin. Everything will be sweet. And it's not always the same. So I do fear if they choose door number one, they're fine. But if they choose any of the other doors, it's the wild, wild west. It could go well. It could go terribly. Dan Eve, what football team will be next? Well, so it just happens that my local club, Selamton, FCE, the Saints, they're sponsored by SportsBetIO and SportsBet now also sponsor, I think, Watford and Arsenal. So I think we might see a bit more of a proliferation of Bitcoin sponsoring, of Premier Football League and the Series A and other European leagues. I think that's going to come through. I think Martin made a very good point about the individuals, the players, they make so much money. It's like hundreds of thousands of week, hundreds of thousands of week. And having just that much cash, you can buy loads of shit with stuff with it. But why not buy even just a fraction of Bitcoin? And these sports players, once they, these footballers end up buying just a little bit of Bitcoin, and they see their 10 grand of Bitcoin, go to 50 grand of Bitcoin, and they start telling all the other sports players, that's how it spreads. And it's obviously not all about money, because just look at the Perth baseball team, who are literally knees deep, neck deep, down the rabbit hole at the moment, trying to squeeze themselves down even further. On the Bitcoin standard as well. So yeah, I think football is probably a good candidate. And it's also where big, a lot of big money is. So I think that we're going to see probably a lot of a lot more crypto sponsors, and preferably Bitcoin-based sponsors, but probably a lot of crypto-based sponsors, seeding out into the football leagues, I think. It's funny that we're here talking about football teams versus other football teams. And originally, we'd predicted that with the banks, several banks would start accepting it, and the rest would go like dominoes. Now, I think we need to extend that prediction to the football teams. If one of the team takes it, the other teams will be nervous, and they'll get interested. But also, we want to put a little Hillary Clinton in here, and warn you, if you pay the players in Bitcoin, and they make too much money, they might not even want to play. American football, for instance, is very dangerous, causes concussions, permanent brain damage. Many of the players can't even play with their children when they get old, because their knees are shot. So if you pay them, and they make too much money on Bitcoin, they might quit before their time. So maybe it's too good for them. We need to protect them from this so that they have longer careers. I think that's what Hillary would say. Moving on to the next topic. Check out WCN Clips. The WCN Clips channel on YouTube has clips of this show that are shorter than the entire show. Check it out at WCN Clips and subscribe on YouTube. It's also a great time to give us a thumbs up. In case you're wondering, YouTube algorithm judges videos by whether they get thumbs up. They're so into it, they've removed the dislike button. 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This is a surprisingly sports theme show. The Los Angeles Staples Center, where the Lakers, the Clippers, the Sparks and the Kings, oh, the hockey team plays there too, is getting a new name, the crypto calm arena. We've been waiting a long time for Bitcoin and Bitcoin money to get big enough to sponsor something like an arena. The locals are pissed off. They think that Staples, which is an office supply company, is a historic name. They're like, oh, we're sticking with Staples. I'm going to keep saying Staples. But all that matters is every night when the games are played, the professional announcers who use the professional names will say, we're live from the crypto calm arena before every Lakers game, before every Clippers game. I don't know who the Sparks are. And before the hockey team, the Kings, they will be saying crypto calm. Martian Wishmare have we made it to the big times is Bitcoin or crypto? Are we mainstream as mainstream as Staples or Sears? This is pretty mainstream. Yes. I do have to say crypto.com has also been sponsoring car races, like Austin Martian and stuff. So they've been really, really promoting their exchange and their wallet and they've got a cashback card. So they really want to make crypto mainstream. It used to be Monaco. And they did an ICO back in the days. It took a long time for them to get started. Eventually they rebranded as crypto.com. And the previous owner of the crypto.com domain name was, didn't want to sell it, just sell it. They want, he wanted only wanted to sell it to a company that would actually like build a whole range of services around that domain name. And in that way they succeeded. They built an exchange. They launched their own shit coin token, which has been going up a lot. But it's used as sort of like oil to pay for the exchange fees and stuff. They haven't exchanged. They have a lending program. They have like earning program with interest paying accounts. It's quite comprehensive. They have like nice metal cards, which you can use and get cashback on every visa purchase you do. So I think they just want to grow their brand and they want to really, really bring crypto into mainstream. And I think it will be because if everybody starts using a crypto backed credit card, and even if they're just funding it with dollars, and they get cashback in crypto currency, and they convert that to Bitcoin. And then they instead of spending it, they use that as their savings. They can get like up to 8% or something like that. It's only if you have a huge stake, but most of them, most of the use will have 3% or 5% on the cards. And I think just by having a steady stream of cashback users in Bitcoin, that alone will bring the price to Mars and beyond. I think this is good. So to answer your question is absolutely. Bitcoin is mainstream. There's no doubt about it. Crypto.com is also the company that produced the Matt Damon in a technological museum advertisement that we showed a couple of weeks ago. The female African-Americans Satoshi as an astronaut and the celebration of crypto traders. Just an incredible video that says shows Mars at the end. And Matt Damon's talking about the heroes. And again, he's talking about you. He's talking about the people that believed in Bitcoin when all the banks told him it was no good. And all the people said it was rat poison and a Ponzi scheme. And they still say that. But now they're getting shouted down by people who are like, look at this. They sponsored the whole arena, the whole arena. And I think it's a 20-year deal. I think it's the kind of thing you better get used to it. If you want to complain about it and loss angiolation, you're like, we're going to keep calling it the staple center because you know, I got office supplies tattooed on my arm. I got a paperclip. Oh, what are you talking about? You'll get used to it. Crypto.com. It's going to be everywhere. And also, I love the whole fight back about crypto. And they want it to be Bitcoin or whatever. This lifts all boats. This is good for everybody. You don't have to be even if you're hardcore, light-coiner or you're hold onto your Mazza coin, maybe your California coin fan, Aurora coin mentioned earlier. I just love Aurora coin. But yeah, it doesn't matter. It lifts all boats. You're going to be fine. Even if it says crypto and it doesn't say Bitcoin, Dan, Eve, your thoughts about the crypto.com arena. Yeah, you just, I must say earlier, I forgot to mention that you sent me back a few years because Vertcoin was actually the first coin that I ever tweeted about in 2014. That was like, I think I think I may even bought someone like on like, oh, what was it called? Mintpal. It was something like Mintpal. Oh, anyway, memories. I think Vertcoin had a combination of algorithms. It would mine on this algorithm, that algorithm, this algorithm. So it would change. So you couldn't mine it with an ASIC. And what did that do? It made it hard to mine. And now it's disappeared. I don't know what happened to it. It was hard to mine. It's still, it's still actually around, according to Coin market cap, it's still actually around it. It kind of went mental again in 2018 and hasn't done thus far. But yeah, forget about Vertcoin. But I think, you know, ultimately, you made a good point. You know, people, people are a bit angry that it's not kind of Bitcoin, you know, the Bitcoin stadium. We will see that one day. But it does seem like, you know, a lot of the general crypto companies have got a lot more, you know, cash to flash around. Obviously Bitcoiners don't want to spend 700 million in Bitcoin. They don't want to give away 700 million dollars of Bitcoin to name a stadium because they want to hodle it. So that's kind of that I think the difference in cultures, right? Is that Bitcoin, when you have Bitcoin, you don't want to get rid of it. You kind of, you know, you just want to know that you have it. Whereas other these other cryptos, they're kind of, you know, they're a bit more cash rich. They've got the money to go out and, you know, spend money on an advertiser and advertisement campaign with Matt Damon with fancy kind of CGI and like, you know, pretending that you're the right brothers or, you know, you're, you're an astronaut, you know, all this, all this stuff. They've got the money to do that. And likewise, crypto.com, we've got the money to name this stadium. Obviously, there's a bit of, you know, a bit of a upset because obviously it was, you know, that it's also known as the house that Kobe built. So, you know, people don't want to take away from that name. Obviously, you know, it's a legend who's passed on now. But it's just a stadium name, right? It's not, you know, it was called the staple staples back then anyway. So it's, you know, it's still known as the house that Kobe built, but it's just now, you know, just got crypto shilling all over the shop. So I think ultimately it does. It lifts all, it lifts all bags and gets that gets, again, everything goes back to, to, to Bitcoin. So if you're a bit, even if you're a Bitcoiner that's, that hates general other shit coins, the thing is that people get into shit coins and then they read about Bitcoin and then they end up in Bitcoin like all roads lead back to Bitcoin. That's the main thing. So these are kind of little side parties, but the main party is always it Bitcoin. Maybe people thought that staples just meant like commodities, like the things you need to survive, the staples of life, and they didn't even know it was an office supply company. Maybe that's why they're mad. Moving on to the exit question. Now that we've reached the level of sponsoring arenas and not just any arena, but the Los Angeles arena, the Lakers, the Clippers, the Sparks and the Kings of Hockey. What can we sponsor next? Martin Ideas. And if you're in the marketing department out there, you know, you can put these on a list. It's going to cost you quite a lot. Martin, what can we sponsor next? I will think of like a world ski championships, like, you know, major championships, you know, Formula One, I believe that's been done yet, already by Crypto.com, they were sponsoring, I believe also. But yeah, the golf championships, because you know, money and stuff like that, you know, maybe sponsor, I don't know, I think world championships, that's where we're going, you know, just with these sponsoring stadiums is so 2021. And we're almost over 20, 2022. So I think, yeah, we'll see world championships being sponsored in every sports, not just skiing, but also go golf and others. I think this is good, it gives nice coverage. You know, maybe Coinbase arena, you know, maybe Coinbase could sponsor, you know, Crypto.com is stealing all the show and Coinbase can't be left behind. So, you know, I think Coinbase is probably going to sponsor something next. I like the golf idea because it puts Bitcoin or Crypto into the realm of luxury brands, you know, Rolex, Wax, Mercedes, BMW, golf, tournament, and then you're like, oh, and also Bitcoin, like maybe this whole basketball thing is a little low brow for Bitcoin. We, we, a general badge we sponsored some Bitcoin, was sort of a golf, golf matches in the past. So that was, but that's, that's, that was just for for fun really. But yeah, I think golf is good. It's a nice or classy, you know, well, and it's a long time ago, but I want to remind you kids about what BitPay did many years ago. They sponsored a college football game and a bowl game. Oh, I remember, I remember, the Bitcoin bowl and what was so neat about it. And again, this might be, you know, we're going to call it neat, but on the other side, it might have just been employed. I'll talk about that too. But BitPay didn't sponsor it as the BitPay bowl. They sponsored it as the Bitcoin bowl. Now, of course, we celebrated that out here. We were like, yay, Bitcoin and all that. But cynically, I think they really wanted Coinbase and some other companies to push in some money. And they didn't get the money. The press didn't seem to help them. And they didn't continue the sponsorship for a second year. If you check back on the channel, we did a live play by play commentary of the game, which did feature several advertisements for Bitcoin and BitPay. Everybody hates them now. But still they sponsored us a bowl. It was pretty cool. And that was a major step towards these sponsorships. So I want to give them a good honorable mention there. Dan Eve, what can Bitcoin or crypto sponsor next? I'm sticking with football. I think, you know, it's still one of the most worldwide sports. And I think if if, you know, some of these companies are a pretty cash rich at the moment, especially with, you know, the kind of general alt season that's been dragged along by Bitcoin, I think there's going to be a lot more money spent on advertising in football and taking advantage of the, you know, the worldwide crowds. And especially, you know, I think the Premier League still one of the most popular ones. So I think there's going to be more breakouts of, of Premier League sponsorship around the world. You know, with, sorry, with cryptic. Now Dan's got the sweatshirt on today. Dan show him the sweatshirt. We got to think bigger here. NASA is going back to the moon. And in a stunning twist, probably right out of my favorite TV show for all mankind. NASA is, for whatever reason, you want to say they're going to land the first African American or perhaps the first African American woman on the moon. And I think Bitcoin or crypto or whatever should be there. So Bitcoin NASA, we sponsor a moonshot. We literally take Bitcoin to the moon. We take a great crew of wonderful astronauts from all over the world, all ethnicities, races, sexes, whatever, get the best crew we can get the best scientists. Let's go back to the moon. Let's go back to the moon with Bitcoin with crypto. We should bring a car. We should do everything. We should put a little plaque on the moon. And maybe we can cover over that richer Nixon plaque. We can put a Bitcoin plaque on top of that. We can build a moon base. We can go to Mars. I'd much rather have Bitcoin leading us into space than Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk at Tesla. So Bitcoin to the moon. What do you think, guys? Absolutely. Hell yeah. One thing I would like to see. How about this? Sorry, my imagination was going wild. So it made me think about, I think Martin mentioned what like a rally event or racing event, a racing event. So what if they did like a rally, but with every hill that was going down was like they painted it red and everyone up was green. So like the rally cars were constantly like tripping across red and green. And actually the lap, you know, the lap setter would be done by like one of those little replica cars of like the Bitcoin roller coaster thing like doing that. So before all the cars went round, you'd see that little kind of Bitcoin roller coaster guy going. I think that that would be great for FTX as well because they're such a trading race company. They're an exchange and the ups and downs and everything. And I also want to double down. The moon is good, but we can go further. People don't like the James Webb space telescope. Maybe that could be the Bitcoin space telescope. Something like Voyager. We could go out of the universe into the galaxy's Bitcoin to deep space. And they could say all the time we've got reports from the Bitcoin rovers on Mars, Bitcoin and bitty too or whatever. I just think it'd be great space, Bitcoin, cost a lot of money. The sponsorship money can go to scientists and people like that. And we can do some good and learn some stuff while we're advertising the Bitcoin. So NASA, I give us a call. We're right here waiting. We'll hook you up. We'll hook you up. Moving on to issue five cryptographers are furious that crypto now means something else. I love this story. And what I love about it is that when we started the world crypto network in 2013, there was already a world Bitcoin network started by our friend James D'Angelo. And I really like James work and I didn't want to copy him or compete with him or try to steal his name or whatever. So we worked around trying to find a generic term for Bitcoin. And we came to crypto. And we also said that we're interested in encrypting our email. We're interested in encrypting our chat messages and our hard drives and everything. We love crypto the idea. It was cryptographers that built Bitcoin people like Peter Todd and Adam back early people on the crypto mailing list. So it was really obvious and right there. But now there's been a huge pushback in our area. It's mainly from Bitcoiners who don't like the term crypto. But now there's a second group of people that don't like the term crypto, the cryptographers. They would prefer that you talked about actual cryptography, not crypto currency. Dan Eve, what do you think about this great fun issue of fighting over generic terms for Bitcoin? I think it's pretty cute. You've got to feel for these guys they've been using the term crypto all along to describe their cryptography and all the elliptic curve stuff and all the crazy cool stuff about encryption. And now it's been hijacked by a bunch of crypto bros with shit coins. So it's got to be a bit frustrating for them. There's even t-shirts right like the... What does it crypt crypto means cryptography, you know, just to remind everyone. That's really catchy. It is, yeah. Where can we order those shirts? Have you seen them online for sale? You have seen a lot of them at thecrypto.com arena. Everyone was wearing one. I want one that says crypto means cryptocurrency. That would really ruffle some feathers. But yeah, it's sad obviously that words get hijacked and they kind of, they morph meetings over time, but that's the kind of beautiful language, isn't it? It evolves. And ultimately, crypto currencies are the bases they're made from cryptographic like hashers of, you know, whether it's sharp 256 or f-hash or whatever it sits. It's kind of, it does, you know, it is made from cryptography, but just obviously not the same amount of cryptography that they would like. So I feel for them. I feel for them. Sorry for hijacking your word. Well, I like this issue because I always feel personally offended. Everyone's on Twitter and they've got their flags and they're like, crypto isn't Bitcoin. Bitcoin isn't crypto. And they're very militant about it. And I'm just there quietly in the background. We named our network in 2013. And that's so far they just ignore us like they ignore us on everything else. So that's probably for the best. But yeah, I do always feel a bit of twinge of like, they don't like crypto anymore. And I was like, but I'm trying to be generic. And also when I first got into Bitcoin, I understood how to encrypt my email. I understood how to encrypt my hard drive. And when they told me they were encrypting the Bitcoin and that the signatures were a part of Bitcoin, I understood it in the line of PGP in the line of email encryption and all these other things that I'd already, you know, studied and understood. So I always sought the two were connected. So it's very interesting to see all these people. We don't like crypto, but I love crypto. I love cryptography. These are our people, right? And Bitcoin is our people. So we should all just get along. Martin, what do you think about crypto? I think they're like, you know, making a bit of fuss out of nothing because, you know, before Bitcoin, I worked with cryptography. We used PGP to batch encrypt stuff coming from the main frame. We used the X509 certificates to encrypt mail and deploy them using what active directory at the time. I don't know if this stuff still exists, probably does, but nobody uses Microsoft anymore. But, you know, and we encrypted hard drives with true crypt or whatever cryptography we had or encryption tools we had. So we never really called it crypto. I think they're just, you know, they're just jealous that we took like this short name for cryptography. I think this is this is lots of jealousy, no coiners mentality. I think that would really stop. Just call your stuff cryptography. And we can call our cryptocurrency script. Oh, now we're not going to give the name back. Sorry, man. We moved on. The world moved on crypto is cryptocurrency. Also, according to Stephen Colbert, it's not even an argument as Stephen Colbert once said famously, Al Gore's book and movie, the inconvenient truth made money. Therefore, he's right. Global warming is real. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency have made lots and lots of money. Therefore, we're right. And crypto means cryptocurrency. Sorry cryptographers, you lost. Try to make more money next time. Yeah, wait one. We don't even need an exit question. We nailed that one. Moving on to bonus issue issue number six. Someone right clicked every NFT in the highest of the century. For around 18 terabytes, you can download a torrent with every single NFT on the Ethereum blockchain. I'm also told it includes something called the Salana blockchain and maybe even more every single NFT you could right click all at the same time, just for a mere 18 or so terabytes on your hard drive. Not a problem. I'm going to go find that torrent later. You can even download the NFTs individually on something called NFT bay, where you can search. I searched for Curio. I didn't find anything. So I'm kind of miffed, but it's probably because ours are named like CRO-1 or something. You can't find them. But Martin, I know you love NFTs. What about the opportunity to download them all at once? Does this devalue the million dollar crypto punks, etc? Well, you know, if my connection is stuttering, it's because I'm downloading this 18 terabyte torrent at this very moment. It's a copy. It's not the original. But I think it's nice to, this way we can all select the ones we like and we pretend to our friends that we actually own that NFT that is displayed in our picture frame. So yeah, cool. I think it's funny. You've got to be a little bit of a knutter to go right-click every single one of those NFTs because there are so many of them. And it's good to know that the Curio cards are not there because that means they're still very, very, very exclusive and rare. So if you get your hands on an Curio card, you know, better hold on to it because nobody else has it. Then Eve. Well, I'm actually pretty astounded that it's 18 terabytes. That's a so many. How many terabytes photos can one terabyte hold? It's like it's in the 250,000. So that's like 250,000. My math is really bad. So I'm just going to cheat at times 18. So that's 250,000 times 18. That's four and a half million images. That's pretty impressive. There aren't too many of those NFTs also little animations, like little videos and stuff. And they do eat up a lot of space. So yeah, so I might have to add some extra discs to my NAS storage. So I'm going to have audio as well, right? You can have like audio NFTs. I mean, obviously, I like what I do like is seeing every now and then someone like getting angry because someone who bought the NFT as having a go at someone who like, down like right click and saved it and then it's using it for their profile picture like board ape. Like, hey man, I'm going to get my lawyers on you. I paid 250 grand for that board. And you're using it as your image, right? And initially my mom's going to knock on your door now. She's not happy. So I think the NFTs, they still haven't really reached the top either. There's still this, you know, stuff coming out, you know, whole sets like, you know, thought guards and and pixel stuff and just every day that you see like, you know, the pixel penguins and all sorts of stuff. These generated, these self generated things, right? So you've got like the rarities and all that. I think, I think it's definitely got a long, a long way to go. There's some, there are some interesting more usages like using NFTs to represent identification. So if you're using that for some fork form of KYC and stuff. But ultimately, I think it would take a long time to look through four and a half million images. If we were just to say, you know, using the image standard, that's a, that's a lot of images. So a lot of right clicking. Yeah, I think it's cute, but it's kind of a pretend story. We're kind of just messing around. It's a lot of this is what I thought of when I first got into Bitcoin. And I said, oh, there's a digital currency. I'm going to make a copy of that. And I'm going to be rich. Because everything else on the computer going back to when it was invented by Xerox, the mouse and the user interface, it's been a copy machine. I wanted to copy games. I wanted to copy windows. I wanted to copy net scape, whatever it was, you could get a copy of it and you could run it. You could learn how the program works and you could educate yourself. Early copies of Photoshop, of train tons of artists out there. And some of them might have even been illegal copies. So this is fun to pretend that you have the NFTs. But just like with Bitcoin, if you don't have the signature and it doesn't fit, you know, like a key in the lock, you don't really have it. So yes, you could put your Twitter profile up. You could have a board eight, but you could just as easily, you know, right click and download the board eight from the guy you want to mess with. And then you could say that it's yours. So, but I do like that they're all in one big patch package. I like the potential for historical archiving here. I forgot the thing, but there's a thing you could put it on. It's like NTFS or NFS or some kind of world filed system. PFS. I PFS. That's it. Okay. It's an interplanetary file system. So it's it's it's it's it's worth earth and beyond. And if your NFT wasn't stored on there, we could go down the line where people only have the signatures and they go to the link and the web server has been taken down. And if it's not on IPFS, it could disappear. In some ways, this huge download that this guy's made making fun of NFTs, you know, pulling the having fun with it could actually be useful in the future as a historical archive to reconstruct some of these NFTs. If the guys don't go the extra level of storing the images on IPFS or if they don't store them properly, if there's some kind of issue. So I like that there. They're probably not thinking that way. They're clearly taking the piss out of NFTs. But I think it's a fun story. I think the right click things fun, but it really just goes back to like with Bitcoin or as we're talking about PGP and email encryption, if you have the key, it fits in the lock. If you don't have the key, you don't have jack shit. And people need to realize that it's like your password. If you have your password, you can log into your account. If you don't have your password or if you have some copy of all the passwords in the world, but they're all hashed, they're all mixed up numbers and letters. You have them like you definitely have them, but they're hashed. They're not usable. And while these NFTs, they don't quite have it where, you know, you show your NFT and you get into the club, they're getting closer to that. And when they do that, it's not going to be like your identification. They're just looking for a picture. They're going to check the signature. They're going to check that the key fits in the lock. And if you're larping and you're pretending that you have all the NFTs in the world, they're going to find out really quick. So this is a fun story. But I don't think it's talking of the event side. So I think Adam from CoinFest messaged me. And so I'll be there on, I think on the Saturday, I'm not sure what date it is. I think it's the 27th, right? 27th something like that. But anyway, I'll be like singing about Bitcoin and crypto on the CoinFest. And I think that everyone who turns up will get a crypto wrapped to NFT. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, which is pretty cool. I'm pretty proud of that. I didn't know you were in a band too, man. Oh, it's not a band. It's more like a, I'm just a solo satirical like it's more, it's all about fun. It's nothing serious. I'm definitely not a serious rapper or serious singer. It's just some crypto fun. I'm going to prefix it. I think that's a really good use for NFTs. Originally, I thought of course tickets getting you into an event, but really promotions. These exclusive NFTs are great. And if you're an artist and you make a one of one, I think that's really cool. But if you're an artist and you make a thousand or a million of these NFTs, you dump them on everyone. I think that's cool too, because now a million people own it. And as we did with karaoke cards, if that's part of a set, if you give somebody a part one of a three part book or a three part movie, they're probably going to watch the other parts. A certain percentage are going to go by the other NFTs so they can complete the collection. So for promotions, it's really easy. You make that first one, everybody at the conference, and then the other one, you only make five of them. And you know, you double them out. And that promotional element, that ability to dump these like email, you can just get everybody's addresses, dump a bunch of NFTs on them. It's fun. It's interactive. It's you actually own something, even if a thousand other people own it. But I don't think people are seeing it that way lately, a lot of the interest is into these one of ones. The thing has a cigar. I smoke cigars. Therefore, that thing represents me. And they're talking about it in the chat yesterday. They're talking about a guy didn't want to sell his lucky lion or something because he put it on his profile pick. And now everyone thinks of him as the purple lion. And that's cool. But it's also like, I see something a little missing there where you're still allowing other people to define yourself. Maybe you changed it from a Jedi knight to a purple lion or from Spider-Man to a purple lion. You should be yourself or create your own internet profile as I and many others have. You know, as Joey said in hackers, if you don't have an alias, if you don't have a handle, it's like you don't exist. And now we have all these people with these user, these generated things. And they're like, oh, it's cool because it's generated. And I bought it from some guy who says it's cool. You should just make it yourself. Like go make your own board ape and put your own like little thing like this one has my eyes because I photoshopped it. That's unique. That's original. And then sell that as a one of one NFT. And now someone else is using your eyes. And you understand what I'm saying here. You've tricked them a little bit. You've played one on them. And a lot of these people are like setting their identities based on other people's ideas. I don't know how that's going to turn out in the end. I think we're moving on to the exit question. Maybe something about NFTs. Are you really excited for any area of NFTs? Or do you think it's just another altcoin, martin, wish mayor? I liked them. At first, I wasn't sure, but gradually, you know, it gets you. I think it's good from it. It's just a good way to like, you know, authenticate art, basically. You know, you got digital art. And that's always has been like, oh, it's digital. You can copy it. Sure, you can copy it. But now you can prove it's actually yours. And I think that's definitely worth something. And it's also something we've seen at all the auction houses they're getting onto it. And major corporations like McDonald's may see, they're all doing their NFTs. I think you're really spot on with the series, you know, and making people want to complete a series. So it makes sense to like, you know, make them in a series. That's one of things. That might be nice. I've seen some really nice art and sure it's NFT. But even if it wouldn't be, I would still like it. But because it's an NFT, it makes it unique. It's your NFT. And I think this is this, this, this, this really, it really makes sense. I think it's the future of digital arts. And I think it will help digital art grow in ways we haven't seen it grow in the past what decades. Because it was always easy to copy paste copy paste. And then like, I'm the original. No, I'm the original. But now you can prove you're the original. And you're not just the guy that downloaded 18 terabytes of data from the internet. So yeah, I see a big future for NFTs. But I forgot the exit question. I don't know what the question was. I forgot. Did I answer it or not? You did fine. You talked about NFTs. It's good. Okay. Cool. And Eve, your thoughts on NFTs in the future. Well, I read about NFTs being used for IDs today. So, you know, trying to tackle the identification problem online. I think that's kind of quite a cool idea. But I think one, I can't remember who I think it might have been Josh actually. We discussed it a while back. But the fact that say, you know, with artists, you know, singing as musicians bands, whatever, whoever sells tickets for an event, they often get stuff because of secondary markets. Whereas, if you have NFTs, you can have rights that go back. So even if the ticket gets sold on 20 times, at least it's, and it goes up and down and whatever in price, at least that money's going back to the original artist rather than, you know, just in the hands of whoever bought it. So I think that's quite cool. Also things like, you know, just the actual ticket itself, you know, people still find value in like the original, you know, I don't know, a glass-tumbly ticket from 20 years ago. So that's got some value to it. It's got a history to it. It was used to actually get into glass-tumbry, for example, and that year. So I think there's some exciting stuff there. But just in general, it's just tipping the kind of, I don't know, the art world on its head. And kind of using that, you know, everyone's always talked about the, you know, provenance of stuff, like the provenance of stuff, like when it when I was getting in, even in 2013, it was like, we're going to use blockchain to track Vi wine. And you can see, you can use the blockchain to track what grapes are on. And even though I'm not, it's ludicrous. Yes, exactly. But now it's on the blockchain. I'm not, it's on the blockchain. But this is ludicrous. But the NFTs sort of side of things, I think it's got a lot more actual real-world applications. So yeah, I'm excited to see what NFTs can actually do and how they can make people's, I don't know, make people's lives is better for like bands, for example, to make sure that they're getting a lot more of the capital that's been, you know, being spread around from their seat, from their tickets. We did a report before we move on. The ticket thing is actually a very good one. We had a ICO back a few years ago when the ICOs were all hot. They was called Guts, G-U-T-S. And they did tickets, ticketing on the Ethereum blockchain. And what they did, they did it because they want to kill off the whole secondary retail, the secondary sale market for tickets. And it does work. They do it, you know, you can transfer, you can sell your ticket, but you can only sell it for a certain amount. And there's no like crazy pricing creases. And it helps, like, you know, get a text on this whole secondary ticket market. But the thing is that most of the companies that actually sell those tickets, they also make money on the secondary market, like Mojo and all the other ones. So the industry itself isn't too excited. But Guts, it's still doing great. And okay, of course, they've been hit by the pandemic where no performances took place. But they're still around. And I think they'll be around 40 years to come. And yeah, so yeah, definitely works. And I think you have a point there then that if an NFT gets sold and it's sold on the secondary market and the contract is smart enough that it gives a kickback to the original artist. That would be best because that would really revolutionize the art world. Yeah. Well, I agree with what Martine said earlier, for a digital artist, like if you're a 3D artist or if you're a Photoshopper like Fennep, and you get to the final and you're like, okay, I'm done. This is this is the item. You can't really do anything. You can't make a one of one of that item and say that that was the done one until now. Now you can attach a signature that has a time and a date to that item. And you could say, this is the signature that represents this item that I have made. And then you have that opportunity where you can resell that signature. You can give it to people as a proof with like a physical work. But mainly for the digital artist where they couldn't make a physical work. They didn't have anything to sell as an original. Now they can sell that as an original. So it's a huge benefit to them. I'm a little unsure. I want it to support independent artists. But if you look at these kind of corporations that are coming up, they take one image from an original artist and then they put a hat on it and then they put a cigar on it and they put 3D glasses on it. And it's not so much the original artist that's being celebrated. It's this algorithm that determines that there should be 31s with 3D glasses and there should be 15 ones with 3D glasses and a cigar. And it's not really supporting the artist directly. So I do like it better when the artists are selling it directly when they're the ones making the money. And when the works are more original. I mean, we didn't have Picasso like I'm going to make a bowl. Then I'm going to make a bowl with a hat on it. Then I'm going to make a bowl with a cigar. He was like, I'm going to make a bunch of different paintings and different aspects of things and angles. I'm going to put cubes in this one. He wasn't just like, this is my greatest work. The Mona Lisa. Now Mona Lisa with a cigarette Mona Lisa with glasses Mona Lisa with a hat like he didn't do that right Leonardo didn't do that. So a bit uncertain about that direction that they're taking it and also as a final note, if you don't own the rights to something, you can't NFT it. Recently, Quentin Tarantino, fantastic filmmaker, amazing writer, a huge personal fan said that he was going to sell these extra scenes from Pulp Fiction as NFT. Well, it turns out he didn't even bother to check with Miramax, the company that he sold the screenplay to, the company that made the movie Pulp Fiction. You sold them the screenplay. It included those scenes. I'm not sure you own them. So you can't NFT something you don't own. It was great to have Quentin in the NFT world. I saw coin artists did a panel with him. I'm jealous beyond all control here. But he's actually going to lose that lawsuit. He's well in the wrong. I don't know the details of the contract. But if you sign the screenplay over to someone, you don't own it anymore. So you can't NFT it. So it's going to be interesting to see how that goes. It was also interesting to see that Miramax in their reply to him said that they had plans to make NFTs presumably of all their movies, of all their characters, of all the scenes, all the locations, all the whatever from all of their movies. And you have to think once again, what an incredible value these movie scripts and movie screenplays and movie studios are. If you think about Disney buying Marvel, buying Star Wars, it's so much better now because they can NFT all that stuff. Every minor character in every Marvel comic book could now become an NFT. And if they do a one-of-one or one-of-ten, they could sell them for thousands, maybe millions of dollars. So once again, we have to reevaluate the importance of owning your masters, right? Taylor Swift is currently re-recording all of her albums because she's upset with a company that owns her masters. She's in a unique position with music where she can do that. Unfortunately, the writers and authors of Spider-Man don't really own anything. They can't really make Spider-Man stories, you know, do the Taylor's version of Spider-Man. They can't really do that. So they're in a pinch. But if you can draw, if you can make new stuff, you can always make alternative versions and different dramatic things. And then you can sell them. And then I guess you can put a hat on it and then you can put a cigar on it and you can put glasses on it. You can sell it 10 times as much. I don't know. But I think it's really exciting to watch the whole thing grow up and watch and all these things I predicted and all these things I talked about about sports teams, adopting NFTs and movie studios and comic books and just what a boon it would be for everybody is happening. It's happening in all directions and all out of control and I don't get a cut of anything. But it is happening and it's exciting to see. And I look forward to it. I think we're going to hear a lot more from NFTs or blockchain collectibles as we used to call them. We're running out of time, but there's just a little bit time left. Martini, do you have a prediction or a story of the week? Go ahead. We just had a new record 11,000, 11,000 machines sold. So yeah, so it was recently singles day. I don't know if that's the thing. And on 11, 11, it's a big Chinese shopping thing because it's 11.11. So we sold 11, 11, 11, 11, you know, we sold all. So yeah, we celebrated it with a bigger screen and all. And it's a milestone. I think it's assigned to the industry is really growing up. We reached on another milestone with like every trade I owed a bookkeeping packet show. So it's nice. It's just for us, it's just business as usual. It's just more colleagues. But it really, it really shows. I think that crypto or Bitcoin is on the right track. And the fact that the subjects we talked about this week's episode here with the NFTs, like major stadiums being rebranded. You know, it's just I don't know where we're going, but it's going to be big. So yeah, that was my prediction of the week. Well, it's great to see. Congratulations to General Bites. And I used to mainly see General Bites ATMs around Europe when I'd go on my trip. But now my friend says they're in a convenience mark near me and they're in the mall and then they're in this other place and they're just everywhere. Actually, it's the US that we're selling like 80 to 90% of all our machines towards the US is really market leader in ATMs globally. Yeah, but you're right. It used to be Europe only. Even then Bitcoin ATMs used to have to go to San Francisco or you have to go to the big city and you got to go to some dirty shops somewhere and they're the only ATM in town. And now you know, no matter where you are, you can open it up. We used to have like Bitcoin ATM map. I'm sure they have something like that now. But it's mainstream. It's everywhere like convenience stations and malls and shops. Yes, stations. Absolutely. And it is. It is the the operator ATM operators that placed them at guest stations. They are the ones that really benefited from this whole pandemic shutdown because everything was shutting down. But you know, guest station is essential. So it's not shutting down. So that was the perfect place for placing those ATMs during the pandemic. But now everything's opening up again and you see them popping up everywhere. So I think it's good. It's something that makes it less virtual, more, you know, more real life. If you're not sure whether Bitcoin has any value, you are convinced after you put a $20 note in it and you get this magical number on your phone. So yeah, definitely as value. I just paid 20 bucks for it. So yeah, I think it helps onboarding. And we're seeing also an L-Solverdor that it's we even have like one of our machines. It's rebranded as a Shivo ATM, which means cool and Spanish. I had to look it up, but it's like cool that they're all Shivo ATMs in L-Solverdor. So we're gradually, you know, looking at Latin America. That's why it was this week, right? Ben was at the LA Bitcoin. And what was the name of the guy again? We recently had him on the show like a month back or so. We're in Ruedorfer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I hope we will be at the LA LA Bitcoin next year because you know, that's I think that's where we're heading. Another neat thing about the Bitcoin ATMs is they're also price screens. So if you're not a Bitcoin or you don't look at your phone every five minutes to check the price, like Vital Vegas. This guy has a great Twitter account. He covers Las Vegas as I can travel blog. And there's a Bitcoin ATM at the D casino. So every once in a while, he'll walk by that Bitcoin ATM. And they have a large surcharge on top of their their payments. So the price always looks higher. They are then in the normal markets. But for a normal person to watch Bitcoin go five, 10, 25, 60, 68, 69,000, whatever. Every time he walks by that ATM, it's the greatest advertisement for Bitcoin that we can do. And you got to figure all the workers, all the normal people, the guy to the the, you know, the vacuum cleaner, all that. They walk by that ATM too. They see that price. And eventually, hopefully it'll catch on. And they'll they'll give it a try with a little extra money. It's number go up technology. And it makes it feasible. Yes. Dan, Eve, do you have a prediction or a story of the week? Go ahead. I predict that I'll be doing the show next week from somewhere in Manchester for coinfest. So if you are in the UK and you're bored next weekend, I think they've actually sold as made I say sold it's free tickets. So go to coinfest.co.uk. I think it's.co.uk. And and yes, sign up to coinfest.org. Sorry. Coinfest.uk.org. Coinfest.uk.org and get yourself a free ticket. And and I'll see you there. And check out coinfest. If you're in the UK, like Dan says, it's a great conference. I got to go a couple of years ago, Adam, the organizers, a good dude, and he's trying hard. If you have a Bitcoin company, maybe you could sponsor a coinfest. If you bought Bitcoin early, maybe you could donate. Like Dan said, the tickets are free, which is shocking in this day and age where certain conferences and certain other carpet baggers have moved in and charged 500 or a thousand dollars or you could get a VIP ticket for $2,000 or $3,000, $4,000, whatever it is. If you give them a small car, they'll let you go see some speeches about Bitcoin. At coinfest, you can actually go for free with your friends, bring your family, bring the people that don't believe in Bitcoin and watch some speeches, meet some Bitcoiners, go out to dinner, buy some merch. You know, it's a lot of fun. There are some cool artists there. Last time, a Hottel.Rocks was there. I got a really cool little Satoshi thing, layered wood, 3D cut thing. It's very cool. A lot of other people, there was the guys with the crypto socks were there and support the sponsors, support the conventions, especially the smaller ones. They're not all giant blockbuster New York City conferences. So if you're near Manchester, maybe you're in England and you've never been to Manchester, they have trains. They have lots of things and stuff. You could go out there. It's a good vibe too. It's really nice. Even if you're new to crypto, it's really nice, nice atmosphere. There's plenty of stuff you can buy because spend all your bitcoins on art. I think Dan did that already once. Yeah. I certainly did regrettably. I can't even imagine how much I spent. I think it was 0.4.6 or something like that on my first year. It was all good. It's all good. I've put the art dealer through several generations for kids through university. But now he's looking for sponsors. Exactly. As Tom said, Martin said, sponsorcoinfest.uk.org. 25th to 28th November. I'll be there. And so I will some I think I might, Ben might even be there as well. If we can convince him, I'm sure he will be. Says it's at the Manchester Conference Center. So check it out in Manchester coinfest. I think we're running out of time for today. Thanks to everybody for joining us. Be sure to give us a thumbs up down below and subscribe if you haven't already. Until next time. Bye. Bye.