The Bitcoin Group, the American Original. For over the last 10 seconds, the sharpest Satoshi's, the best Bitcoin's, the hardest cryptocurrency talk. We'd like to welcome our panelists, Theo Goodman from Hasse online. Good evening everyone. Tony Vays from Liberty Life Trail. Good evening everyone. Jeffrey Jones from the Bitcoin News Show. Oh sorry I was staring at the Bitcoin price. Hello everyone. And I'm Thomas Hunt from the World Crypto Network. Moving on to our 2016 Bitcoin year-in-review spectacular. Imagine fireworks. Issue on biggest winner. Theo Goodman, who is the biggest winner for 2016? Theo is still muted. Here I am. Sorry, here I am. The biggest winner of 2016 is of course. Rare Pepe is the biggest winner of 2016 by far. The winner of 2016 Bitcoin and Rare Pepe is the winner of 2016 in general. Rare Pepe is everywhere. Rare Pepe is in all forms. Everybody knows about Rare Pepe. Rare Pepe has been on the national news, the right wing news, the left wing news, the center news, the Bitcoin news. It's been on Reddit. He's been on Twitter. She's been on Twitter. Rare Pepe is everywhere. Rare Pepe is everything. Rare Pepe is 2016 and it's all about... That's all about Rare Pepe. Toned Vays, biggest winner 2016. All right. I'm having full. All right. For me, the biggest winner of 2016 and this was a very hard one. I'm going to have to go with Uno coin out of India. I have a startup that they did with very little funding, just basically pointing base. But they did it in the perfect market. Later on this year, the Indian government just cancels percent of the currency in a country. So talk about a perfect company. So to me, the winner of the year, Uno coin over in Bangalore, India. In funded, they just got like two million and two million for them. It's like equivalent to the 100 million coin base. God, considering their expenses. The team, Sunyue Ray is great. I'm sure their team is good. So I'm going to have to go out there with love to go out there one day and visit it. Check out the operation firsthand. The winner of the year. Excellent. Excellent. Let's go to Jeffrey Jones, your thought for the winner of 2016. Yeah, this one was tough. Because everybody in the space is working really hard. They're all trying to make Bitcoin happen for everybody. So I just kind of had to choose Bitcoin itself. I haven't go off without a hitch. We had the price go up. We had which which is good for all the bag holders. We had the launch of Segwit. I really got to go with Bitcoin itself. Just kick ass this year. And I'm super proud. Super proud of it and super proud to be a part of it and end this whole movement. So Bitcoin is my choice. We're also joined by Gabriel D. Vine. Are you with us, Gabriel? No, not with us. I'm not ready to have technical difficulties there. And we're going to go to the envelope. Tone, are you ready with the envelope? No, tones frozen too. All right, tone. We can see you and hear you. What's going on? Can you hear me now? All right. I'll be back with Gabe. Do you have Gabe? You have a winner for 2016. We're back with Gabe. All right, tone. Did you ask a question? Now we're saying who's the biggest winner for 2016? Biggest winner for 2016. Bitcoin hotlers shout out to everyone hoarding their Bitcoin coins. Horting is an emotionally charged term which refers to what our grandparents and great grandparents used to call it. And we're going to say anything which was given bad press by those who wish to extract wealth from us. So Bitcoin holders were rewarded with a 120% gains this year, something along those lines. Vortex used to be agreeing with that number. And yeah, I think that it's a real vindication for those of us who believe in the many benefits, and we're going to be able to provide a right future for this first of the practical digital currencies. And I think Andreas Antennopoulos who isn't a big hoarder or anything he just uses and gets paid in it for everything as much as he can. A lot of the stuff that he's been saying has been just really, really dead on. So I'm going to proclaim Andreas King of the holders right now. And just because of his terrific rhetoric, he doesn't come on this show. He's only been on a couple of times, but Andreas really, really inspiring stuff. So I'm going to give a special shout out to him as a figure at community. So we've heard rare Pepe Bitcoin holders, Bitcoin Uno coin. And we're going to go to tone based. Do you have the envelope? I do. And this envelope has been hermetically sealed. And here you go. Whoa. There we have the envelope right here. It's been hermetically sealed. There's any four year old could see left on the porch of Funkin Wagnoles for more than four weeks. Now about. Conact the magnificent will divine the contents will open it up. Here we go. Looks easier on TV goes like. And the winner is Bitcoin Bitcoin is the biggest winner of 2016. The price is back. The stagger is starting to return scaling issues are being settled. Everyone's getting back on board a rocket ship to the moon. And let's move to issue two Gabe. Are you with us? Indeed, I am. Yes, I am. So we choose the biggest loser. Who's the biggest loser for 2016? Biggest loser for 2016 is the Ethereum crew. Ethereum experienced a series of devastating failures, hacks, and market slide. And the failure in hard fork after hard fork, technology failures. I won't proclaim that we've seen the end of the Ethereum platform by any means this year, but the losses that they've suffered. There's a 50% chance that they will be unable to recover from the devastation visited upon them this year. Town Vays biggest loser. So, wait a minute. You guys took the easy way out by calling Bitcoin the winner of the year. I was thinking long and hard about this. And there's something else I'm going through this episode. I am going to. For me, this episode probably for the first time in the Bitcoin group history. I'm only going to focus on Bitcoin. I'm going to focus on altcoins, nor. So everything, all of my, all of my answers to all of these things of the year are going to involve. So we'll just exclude steam. It's 90% loss. Correct. Correct. So for me, the loser of the year will be Mike Hurn. Okay, because he rage quit. I've never heard of anybody rage quitting multiple times, but he actually did. So the first time he did it was when he pronounced that Bitcoin is terrible and he came out with Bitcoin XT. He didn't actually pick the low, but it was the second bottom. The initial low came in January 2015. And then the second low came on Mike Hurn's. Coin core and trying to fork Bitcoin into Bitcoin XT. Because 2015. And then he additionally rage quit right here. New York Times article by Nathaniel Popper, where. I probably claimed. Bitcoin is done. Oh, for me, that is that Mike Hurn. Makes my list for loser of the year. Jeffrey Jones biggest loser. Yeah, yeah, all these questions were tough, but you know what? I'm going to have to go with with our three because our three got many, many, many millions of dollars invested into it. And the only thing I had to show for it was cord up. And when that was released, that was absolutely ripped to shreds by Peter Todd and many other developers in the space. And it was just completely embarrassing in my opinion, you know, for the company. And for what they released with we're talking, you know, millions and millions and millions of dollars released. This half working big half baked contraption that is so far from being launched that it's not even funny. I mean, this is like Bitcoin negative five here. And you know, people give Bitcoin crap for not being done fully completed yet. But come on, I mean, this is really bad stuff. So it was really a vindication for a lot of people that was upset about my current exit quitting, you know, and rage quitting and all that kind of stuff. And here's what he had to show for he showed he put his cards on the table showed us, okay, look, this is what I think I can do better than Bitcoin. And he just completely fumbled and and fell. So I need the world to understand this that that that that corner and these private blockchains are going to put millions and millions of dollars into them and they're going to come of nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing will come of them. It's going to be ridiculous. So I think, you know, hopefully in 2017 we'll see the narrative switchback from blockchain to Bitcoin embarrassment come founded when Goldman Sachs and others left the group. Theo Goodman, biggest loose. Thomas, could you give me the envelope please. Thank you very much. This is 100% proof of the fair ladies and gentlemen. And the biggest loser for 2016 is Craig Wright. You're the biggest loser of 2016. Move the coins, bro. Check the song out soundcloud.com slash Theo Goodman. Move the coins, bro. We're going to have to agree with Gabriel. The biggest loser is a theorem. First the Dow hack, but then the response to the Dow hack rolling back the chain creating the impetus for a theorem classic as they're now two chains, just a total mess, biggest loser. And now most defining moment, Jeffrey Jones, most defining moment of 2016. Oh, let me find it here. We're going a little bit out of order. Okay. To me, I think really the most defining moment for Bitcoin this year was the having by far and away. This was code that was written eight years ago and has been executing perfectly ever since and this particular execution happened globally instantly all around the world. And it was perfectly predicted, perfectly put into the code, executing perfectly and really went off without a hitch. There was so much fun around the having talking even from my current and from other people talking about how the having could have Bitcoin spiral down. And I think the spiral of death they said it could have been because of spiral of death. And we saw that it went off perfectly executed globally around the world without a hitch and it just a testament to to Satoshi. It's a testament to the code. It's a testament to the network and to testament to really what we can do if we if we try to if we what humanity can do when we try our best. So this is just awesome. And I hope that we keep we keep going and really cheers to everybody for another four years. They said the miners would stop mining. They didn't stop did they? No, Theo Goodman, most defining moment. Okay, I'm going to have to take a look at this chart just a moment here. And I think here, as we can see, we've got a I'm not really sure of the correct name of the formation, but we've got two intersecting times where two or three people said something in the same week. And right after we had a major price explosion, I think there were definitely some of the defining moments of 2016 where you had some people really either frustrated in total disbelief or just too late to the party. So let's start here. We've got here Roger, you know, you might be cool to hang out with, but here I think you might have been a little wrong bitcoins failure to scale quickly has caused the highest TX fee of all coins. This is driving users to altcoins. This was going on, you know, a lot of people were talking about scaling and then also at the same week coin base published on their blog, Ethereum is the forefront of digital currency. So right about then is when the latest mega rally start and I think that was a pretty defining moment. And then we have another defining moment up here recently, I think, where again, Roger is dropping the economic one of what we're doing. Economic one of one wisdom nonstop on Twitter and Reddit and Bitcoin.com and wherever else, you know, where he says again, when the cost of using something goes up, people use less of it. This means high Bitcoin TX fees are causing fewer people to use Bitcoin. So if that were the case, why did it just go from where he said that about 700 something to 950 now? I don't know, you know, we can't say for sure, but just so happen around the same time that Jeremy, the CEO of circle said it's highly unlikely will be using Bitcoin five or 10 years. And in a maybe a hangover of election disbelief circle stopped with the, you know, Bitcoin business and now they're not doing Bitcoin business. I think they're doing Bitcoin OTC, but I think those were two defining moments this year in 2016. It's always dangerous in the open your mouth Gabriel, divine, most defining moment. The most defining moment of 2016 in my opinion was the release of Bitcoin core version 0.13.1 the final segwit release, which activated the voting threshold. Now, of course, they're not activated, but turned on the voting mechanism so that the threshold will hopefully be really reached within the first two months next year as Andreas and to not be as predicted. I predicted that it would, that it would activate right away before learning that a lot of development is still required in order to deal with the differences in the code base. So, in order to add support for many wallets, there's a relatively robust lead decentralized wallet ecosystem at the moment and all of them need to, you know, add a bit of code. It's not, it's non trivial. It's a pretty big difference in the, in the code base, but I'm just the fact that the core team was able to, you know, create this con. Create this concept, flesh out the code, throw it up on testnet, basically over a year ago and get it launched in two releases in a row earlier this year, I think was a huge step and really a lot of the naysayers like Roger and other people totally underestimated the, how I say it. They underestimated how important that, that psychological milestone was for the community and for mining CTOs and for all sorts of other movers and shakers in the ecosystem, even though we're still only at 25% activation. I think that's awesome actually to take a whole year on the test net and then to take and then to require 95% activation. Threshold shows so much confidence on the part of the developers that if this is the right thing, then people will vote for, you know, minors will signal support for it when they're ready and it and pools needed to devote developer time. The pools are actually dominoing very slowly, it's like a slow motion domino line here where each pool needs to expand, they're probably spending thousands upon thousands of dollars or let's just say bitcoins upon bitcoins to develop all the software, you know, commits for support of this relatively deep change to the protocol and increase in, you know, ability for scaling, removing the biggest bug of the entire ecosystem or, you know, part of the biggest bug, the most common types of transaction, all the ability. That is just huge, so huge and I think it was very underestimated guys like Vinny Lingham, which would be by runner up for a winner of the year as far as just making some very, very accurate calls on Bitcoin price and Bitcoin happenings. He was one of the voices accurately describing how these advances in the Bitcoin protocol are encouraging so much optimism and trust in the software and really giving a lot of robustness. It's important to take your time and be correct when dealing with money and we'd hate for there to be two bitcoins right tone, vase, most defining moment. It's actually good being last because two of my answers were already taken because I wrote down a few just in case because they were obvious and segwood was one and the having was one so those have already been taken, which is good. That's a good thing. That's not a bad thing because I don't have to explain those. For me, as much as I want to. There's nonsense and how coin can split into what I'm going to go with I'm going to go with for me to the finding moment and it's not one moment, but it happened fairly quickly over a month over the last month actually is the war on cash. And I think this will be the defining moment of 2016 leading into 2017 because this is when the world found out how all these governments are really pushing to eliminate cash and this will probably be the most important and useful thing that government can do to support Bitcoin. And we've already seen it in India and Venezuela and Australia and Europe is talking about it and there's been rumblings in the US about it, but US is probably the last one to do it. The Scandinavian countries are already have plans to go to a fully digital non cash societies. I'm sure Switzerland is not far behind and I think this is the year that will be remembered for when this trend began and what possibly Bitcoin on the map. So for me, it's the general concept of war on cash as the defining moment of 2016. They were the biggest loser and they're the most defining moment. Ethereum rolls back the chain caused by the Dow hacked for $50 million. You can talk about the problem of putting all your eggs in one basket, but they proved it. The developers give up a new ability to give their money back, short-sighted and a mistake. Let's move on to the best choice. Go go go go go go go. I was really choosing between those two at the very end. It was close and now back to tone for best Bitcoin company. Who's the best Bitcoin company tone? Oh my god. This is the one I really wanted to go last time because this is another one where I have three freaking things on my list. And I have to pick one of the three and I don't really want to say what the other two were and I don't think anyone on this panel is going to pick them. And this is very hard and I'm going to go off the beaten path a little bit with a lot of speculation behind it. For me, the best company has to be bit fury. And it's not for what they did. It's for what they didn't do. They're in support of Segwit. They do a lot of research and they tried out all of these other things in order to show that they're not good like Bitcoin unlimited and Bitcoin XT. And they're making chips. They're, you know, they're not causing too many waves and like they don't also like both. Yes. They don't, you know, they don't get crazy into politics. And I think that they're playing possum in that they're not the biggest minor, the biggest minor. I think they have so much knowledge and so much expertise and mining. And they're trying to stay under the radar as much as possible to keep confidence in Bitcoin as high as possible. And I respect that. So I have other companies on my list, but I want to give a big credit to bit fury for just doing some of the best job and mining, not mining empty blocks and pointing out some of the nonsense that's going on in the mining space. And mining is one of the two most critical aspects of Bitcoin, along with wallets and exchanges are a distant third and everything else is a long way away. So bit fury. You got Jeffrey Jones, best Bitcoin company 2016. Yeah, I too like tone had a few and oh man, it's hard to choose. We love everybody working in the Bitcoin space. So we just want to encourage everybody to keep going. So I'm going to have to go with bit square, the decentralized Bitcoin exchange. Now this software doesn't have a whole lot of liquidity in it yet. And it's really in its early stages. But what these people did with such little funding and I mean almost no funding. I don't even believe they have any VC funding. I mean they had a crowd funding, but they have done they they would continue to release update after update fix after fix relentlessly. They're on they're on Reddit. They're on Twitter. You know, they're all over the place and they're trying to get the word out about Bitcoin and these guys have done amazing work. Bit square and it's open source, you know, bit squares completely open source. Bit square will be looked at look at upon by many decentralized exchanges in the future as the beginning. And they'll look to it for for insight and they'll they'll see that this was the they could see the dream, you know, almost they can see the dream by just looking at it. And so that the dream of course is to have nothing but decentralized exchanges and have no centralized exchanges. Therefore, no central point of failure that can cause things like the bid for next hack, right? So just relentless these guys. I really am proud of what they're doing. They're everything's looking good. And so you guys just keep on going. There's going to be more of this in 2017 and into 2018 more decentralized exchanges and we need them. So so keep up the good work. And that's my company of the year. Theo Goodman, your thoughts on company of the year. I got to open the envelope 100% proofably fair. And the winner is Bitcoin company of the we're of the year. Nitrogen sports. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, nitrogen sports. Actually a use for your bitcoins. Actually a reason to use Bitcoin. Besides getting 5% off buying a carpet that you're going to walk over every day. And you can tell someone that you paid for that in Bitcoin because you got 5% off, which is not bad. But nitrogen sports is not cool. You can bet on sports. Check it out nitrogen sports dot mean. And that is the Bitcoin company of the year 2016. Gabriel, Devon, best Bitcoin company. Best Bitcoin company. Well, Bitfury is pretty awesome and BitSquare. I don't know if they count as a company. Are they even a company? Not technically. Yeah, I mean if they did a crowd fund, maybe they maybe they do have a corporation or something. But I'm going to go with the traditional choice of block stream. You know, the block stream team comes out with some really seminal academic work as well as just practical code that you know is running in production. And they did a lot of the work on on Sagwit. They they're doing work on, you know, on side chains along with Paul Stortz. I'm going to say block stream. I think they're once again, engendering a lot of confidence in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Confidence equals price rise equals, you know, equals, equals more usage equals more robustness equals bright future for Bitcoin. So block stream. And the best Bitcoin company 2016 is coin base, making it easy to buy and sell Bitcoin accepting credit and debit cards, launching an exchange with GDAX, expanding into Ethereum and Litecoin, all coin sales, great work. And now the worst Bitcoin company of 2016, Theo Goodman. Ladies and gentlemen, the worst Bitcoin company of 2016, it was a tough decision and there were many choices. 2016 has brought us some dark clouds that we must tread through in order to reach the moon. There are many bad companies in the way. And as of late, there has been a lot of discussion about the block size limit. And there are some people that are blocking the block size limit, block of the block block. And in that case, I'm going to have to say via BTC, you're the worst company of 2016 because your whole mission is just to block, but you want bigger blocks. What's up with that? Come at me, bro. They're blocking for bigger blocks. Gabriel, Devon, worst Bitcoin company. The worst Bitcoin company, boy, it's kind of a mean thing to say. These guys are all trying to make money here and they're trying to make the world a better place. So, as they say on Silicon Valley, God, worst Bitcoin company. I'm going to have to say that Coinbase is the worst because of the rhetoric. Even though they're pushing back against the IRS, I have a strong suspicion that in the background, they're actually providing a lot of data to various parties. And I just don't appreciate the fact that the rhetoric coming off of the CEO and the way that they introduced Ethereum support, you know what? Screw it. I'm going to go with circle instead. Circle dropped Bitcoin exchange support this year. I mean Coinbase isn't great. They were like, the CEO was saying Bitcoin is dead and Ethereum is the future. That's idiotic. But I'm going to say, I'll give them the runner up and I'll give the price to circle for dropping Bitcoin support, you know Bitcoin exchange support this year. Circle dropping Bitcoin just before the big price rise, tone, vase, worst Bitcoin company. All right. Oh, man. So, so I was going to go with Coinbase, but now that Gabriel, like, spent all of his time talking about Coinbase being the worst Bitcoin company, I spent that time thinking of another company that would have been the worst Bitcoin company. And I came up with the answer and I guess because I've been, I don't know, maybe I'm turning into a fish. I have just forgot the new answer that I came up with because I was going to talk about Coinbase. Give me one second because I had thought and I even thought of a reason to make it the word, okay, here we go. Because Coinbase was quasi taken, which was my first choice. My choice for the worst Bitcoin company is and it's kind of like the same company they're competing with each other. Is like chain analysis and elliptic. These companies, they're are blatantly just trying to map and identify Bitcoin users. And then, you know, and I've met these people, I've met these CEOs, they speak at conferences. And I don't understand how the Bitcoin community is not angry at them. Like I understand that the government wants to know of our Bitcoin addresses. But I don't think that we should pay attention to these people. I don't think that we should, I think that these companies should be boycotted. I know some people think that because of these companies, there will be, you know, they will be the ones bringing fungibility to Bitcoin because the Bitcoin community will fight against these companies and identifying addresses. But that is the issue, right? I mean, like yes, our Bitcoin core developers give us fungibility to fight against these companies. But things are more important than fungibility right now at the moment and scaling is one of them. And I hated how the people in the Bitcoin community that believe in Bitcoin think that they're doing a good thing. And I've spoken to somebody CEOs and doing a good thing by identifying, you know, Bitcoin identities. So, no, I don't think the money rolls the solution, but I don't want to, but I get, I'm not talking about old coins. This is a Bitcoin shell. But yeah, so to me, those are the worst companies. The coinbase was originally my first choice. And finally, Jeffrey Jones, worst Bitcoin company, 2016. That's cool, guys. Just take all these ones. Let's see. Zcash. No, just kidding, because that's not a Bitcoin company. You know, it's tough, but I'm going to probably have to go with Bitfinex because I mean, they kind of turn things around. And I know that they're working hard. And you know, like Gabriel said, it's hard to call it the worst Bitcoin company, right? But God damn, how many times do they have to get hacked and take it down the price before somebody has to call them a worst Bitcoin company, right? I hope that, you know, we're currently in the middle of a big rally. And I really hope that I think everybody is just hoping crossing fingers that Bitfinex doesn't get hacked and screw up this freaking rally. Because this rally is really on track to hit new all-time highs. And you know, we really, we really were on track to hit all new time highs earlier this year, you know, back in June and stuff. And then of course, the Bitfinex got hacked and then the Dow right after that. So it just was just just destroyed for complete cold water on the huge fiery rise. But we're back at it again six months later or so. And we're ready for all-time highs. Everybody's ready. And so Biffenex, please, please double and triple and quadruple check all of your security. So for the good of the whole community, please, that's it for me. Excellent companies all worthy of mention, but the worst Bitcoin company is Coinbase giving all of their customers information to the IRS, collecting that information in the first place. And now allowing those Bitcoin addresses to perhaps become tainted, perhaps bringing Bitcoin, pseudo anonymity and fungibility to us, reaching halt. Biggest surprise Gabriel D. Vine, biggest surprise of 2016. God, you know, I haven't been surprised at all. I'm going to say it was, it was the death of my red lava lamp, you know. I bought that thing used on eBay for cheap. I put a divine sticker on it and then my girl didn't like that sticker for some reason, which, you know, I don't want to air our grievances publicly, but that was a bit of a point of attention. And then, you know, things conspired this year. We had Carrie Fisher died and I watched singing in the rain for the first time. And then Debbie Reynolds passes away and she was incredible. And you like Carrie Fisher? Oh, this boy. Her mom could sing super cute. Just wow, singing in the rain is a frickin psychedelic crazy movie. That is crazy from 52. Anyways, so and then and then the lava lamp on top of it. Now see, I was expecting death chaos, Brexit, Trump. I was expecting all that this year, but the lava lamp. I'm going to just leave it leave you with a side. That was very unexpected. For the man who expected everything, the loss of a lava lamp, excellent colors and singing in the rain, tone vase. Are you with us for a biggest surprise? Yes. Yes. I don't know what was going to be next. Okay. So for me, the biggest surprise and this might sound weird is Roger here. Because I've known Roger here for a few years now when I've spent time with him, I've hung out with him. And what he's been doing the last six months with this Bitcoin unlimited crusade. I mean, to me, that is still like, I just don't understand. I don't understand why he's openly saying maybe a hard fork isn't all that bad after seeing what happened with the theory. He's on this crusade for censorship on our Bitcoin. Look, I just don't get it. I'm sorry, this doesn't make sense to me. I know there's like a million conspiracy theories that he's been coerced and that he's part of the government now. And people think that he's out of money and whatever he wants to start and all a new chain where he becomes rich. I don't believe all that. Like I just don't know what I'm sorry, I need proof. I so I still want to believe it's the same Roger here, but I just don't get it. And to me, that is the biggest surprise. The way he's he what in six months, he went from like being a Bitcoin Jesus to people calling him, you know, like the Bitcoin devil or you know the Bitcoin anti Christ, right. So, and I've been, you know, getting a little like frustrated with that as well, because I'm on the segwood camp. Not just him several people that whose opinions I respect it have gone to the segwood camp, even like Jerry Chan. And I know he's not all that well known Rick Falquinge and like again, I'm trying to stay away from like this old coin nonsense. So I'm trying to like stick to the Bitcoin. And to me, it's just the biggest surprise has been Roger, viewers actions and statements the last six months. I'm sorry, I don't get it. Jeffrey Jones, you wasn't a champion. I don't know what's going on. Jeffrey Jones biggest surprise 2016. Yeah, I have to, yeah, I think the whole world was kind of wondering what's wrong with Roger, but we'll get to that later. Let's see here. Yeah, that was a big surprise to us all still is. Let's go with me. So I think that really one of the biggest surprises for me anyway was how quickly the US government kind of or specifically just this judge declared Bitcoin was money, right. So in that particular federal judge in New York back in September, that one judge declared Bitcoin as money. I really just did not see any any federal judge declaring Bitcoin as money anytime this suit. Maybe like 2017, maybe 2018, you know, years from now, I just didn't see an actual judge getting it, right. Like understanding that this is freaking money. This has value. This is not something just to be auctioned off. This is not something that's run by a central company or anything like that. No, this is real money. And so that kind of kind of took me back a little bit. I was like, wow, I think that there are some people in the politics that actually get it. So we hope that those are the people that continue to represent us in the government. But yeah, that really took me back. And so that made me happy that made me smile. That Bitcoin was recognized as money there. But of course, all sorts of things happened after that. So we'll see what happens. But yes, Bitcoin is money. Theo Goodman, biggest surprise 2016. Just a moment, ladies and gentlemen, I've got to get the envelope. The biggest surprise of 2016, Ethereum classic. Not a lot of people expected that to even happen. It was summer. Everyone was chilling at the beach on vacation. You know, Bitcoin was kind of chugging along. One knew about the Dow hack. Oh, yeah, we got to kind of fix this sort of fork it or whatever. But I don't think a lot of people really expected that to happen. And it was a surprise. And frankly, it's a surprise that it's still around and it's going pretty strong. I would definitely say that yes, it's not Bitcoin. I'm a list, but that's okay. It's very much 2016. Ethereum classic is 2016's biggest surprise. Most definitely a surprise Theo and surprise me to see a whole developer community and even the support of Barry Silver. It's interesting thing. But it seems like tone can see my sheet. Can you see my paper from over there, tone? Because the biggest surprise of 2016 is Roger Vier. Surprise to see the once great Bitcoin Jesus become so adamantly opposed to segway it in the block stream team. The scaling debate in general caused a huge rift. Pitting Bitcoin or against Bitcoin or like a civil war Bitcoin classic Bitcoin XT. But let's move on to the biggest comeback. Biggest comeback of 2016. Theo Goodman. Biggest comeback. I'm going to go with an exchange actually a bit max. They had some issues say early 2016. There weren't hacked or anything, but just a lot of discussion. I think they kind of didn't really think they've figured out what they want to do. And I think they're going in a good direction. They're figuring out what the users want. There you can trade. And with leverage different futures products. And you can also trade altcoin futures by just depositing Bitcoin, which maybe sounds crazy to some people. But it's a place where you can short alt coins. And they just have I think that the way that they've developed has been good in the last half of 2016. And they keep on improving. And I think they'll be able to improve more if they keep it up. And I think that is probably one of the biggest comebacks. It makes famously allowed the cash futures before there was even a market Gabriel D Vaughan biggest comeback. I am going to say that my answer will be quite obvious. And I'm thinking maybe Thomas the envelope is going to have some similarities, but I'm going to just say Bitcoin. Bitcoin itself. You know, a lot of us insiders did not expect. Three year bear trend after the bubble. I mean, even though it was clear in my eyes that the late 2013 price rise was a bubble and not sustainable. I thought there would be a correction. However, the duration of the correction did take me by surprise. I guess it wasn't a three year bear trends more like two years. And then it kind of just found its bottom and consolidated for a while before heading back up this year. So yeah, biggest biggest comeback for sure Bitcoin so many so many obituary so many smug. Status authoritarian proclaiming that I told you so and just like they had in 2011. After the crash took from 30 to $2 just like they did in early 2013. On the crash from 266 to $60 and it was just so transparent how wrong they were and once again, Andreas and to Nopelos he didn't change his message. He just found metaphor after metaphor to explain how amazing this money, this revolution and money and software was. So Bitcoin is the comeback and next year will be quite interesting to see what happens after the comeback. I like how they all have to explain it. Oh, remember Bitcoin it's still around. It just keeps running its software. It don't care. Toned ways biggest comeback 2016. So this was actually a tough question. I'm going to share my screen again. So for me, and this is going to go a little bit off the board. So for me, the biggest comeback is a packs full and back page right. It's not even so much the biggest comeback. It's more like a survival right because. I'm more like like how do you come back how do you come back alive from this video and shown I believe definitely all of Florida and probably nationally right and how do you like not get killed by our trigger happy police. And Ray CEO, facts full who we now know as Muhammad, I'm sorry, I'm not going to let you live this down. Maybe when I start my podcast come on my show will talk, but when you do something stupid and it makes national news. You will be forever remember right. So the fact that they are still alive after their stupidity stunned and their back in operation, they did not last in in holding very long and also the CEO of the back page itself also had also got arrested for running back page to begin with. And last I heard he has he is also out of out of jail. So the fact that back pages still around and packs full is there helping them use Bitcoin as their name as basically what that company does. Call support for a back page for the escorts to post their ads and get their bitcoins. So yeah, that is my comeback of the year and I hope they keep doing what they're doing. They were really incredible comeback and just to remind the audience, they were walking around their apartment in ski masks with machine guns, their neighbors notice called the police and they obviously got in trouble for having perhaps illegal weapons and other things allegedly allegedly but that that that's right. This goes to audio only so they don't know. Yes, the packs full team was arrested for being stupid and posing with guns and ski masks and police were called and they broke down their house, found a lot of drugs and bullets and nothing was out. And even if you have the video, it's quite scary. The guy standing near a balcony with a machine gun, he's got his mask, it looks like maybe hostage situation. You don't know, but yes, it was just an unfortunate photography. Let's go to Jeffrey Jones biggest comeback 2016. Well, let's see, you know, I just want to point out one more thing that Gabriel said or just emphasize it again, you know, when Ethereum rose this year by a thousand percent, I tell you there was a lot of small Ethereum people out there really, really quick to judge, you know, Bitcoin because Bitcoin was was kind of down at that point and and it was down for a while. And of course, the the theorems rise. I mean, there was charts from the economist, right? There was all of these charts pointing out how Ethereum rose like crazy and then Bitcoin's just going down, right? So just let's just get that out of the way that that was ridiculous. Okay. Now second thing is I was going to go with Shrem, you know, but then he went and started this whole huge private blockchain thing private private blockchain security thing that's not open to you to US investors. Yeah, that sounds legit. So of me, Bitcoin and sensor just, you know, interviewed them recently about about the product and needless to say, it's pretty much everything that they thought it was. So you guys can check that on your view interview out for yourself. So not going to go with Charlie. So instead, let's see, I guess I'm going to go with Patrick burn because this man was actually hospitalized, you know, and we know that he's been fighting the good fight against Wall Street for years and years and years. I mean decade over decade now. Been called the scourge of Wall Street, right? Or many other different names on Wall Street. As he continues to expose the naked short selling and other various and fariest things that goes around down there. He came back. He came back earlier this year or in the middle of the year around June July. And he came, he was out of the hospital and he's and he's been back at it kicking ass with T zero and his platform, trying to bring transparency on Wall Street. And I mean, when he came back, he hit the ground running like he's doing all sorts of thing. Tio is just killing me down there. So encourage everybody to check that out. But burn man, he really is a trooper. And I'm really so freaking proud to have him in the space. I mean, he's really just to have him back. It's just great. You know, there was all sorts of conspiracy theories kind of going around when his health was ill. But I tell you, I'm just glad to have him back. And he is as ferocious and furious as ever. And as willing to take down Wall Street, as ever. So kick ass Patrick. Glad to have you back. Excellent pick. Jeffrey. And of course, our best wishes go out to Patrick. And we're glad that he recovered. That's great to hear. And you were very close. The best comeback of 2016 Charlie Shrem released from prison, vowing to get back into the industry. He got back in with an Ethereum based stock market tokenization plan that it seems he hasn't missed a beat. And he's back on the cutting edge right between law and crypto. Currency best of luck to the biggest comeback. Charlie Shrem. And now we'll be saying that again. I think he's going back to where he was. That he's going to have a second comeback. Okay. I'm sure we all we all remember back this back to the future. Good old Jailbird Johnny. He just he cries whenever you take him out of his pen. You know, he just just like he's dying. I think he's dying to go back. That's what I'm saying. I hope not. I hope not for the best for his family, everything. But uh, and now Jeffrey Jones, enough already. What have you had enough of in 2016? Oh, man, I get to go first. I'm taking the low hanging fruit and people. Holy crap. Uh, the, the, what, let's see here, the, the enough that I had already. Okay. Um, we already went through Roger for obviously. But really, let's finally put to bed to rest the term blockchain. Let's freaking finally come on. At least either define the son of a bitch. Okay. Or freaking go back to Bitcoin. Uh, that, that's all there is to it. Uh, we are just, you know, so many people, even within the blockchain space, are getting sick of it. Like because they, they, they're trying to tell people what they do. They can't tell them. They try to tell their investors. Well, what, what they're going to release. Nobody can understand it. Nobody can prove that they're secure. Nobody can prove that they can do all those things that they, they, they promise. Right. Like at this point, blockchain can, can, can freaking cure your mom's cancer and like bring back your grandpa from the dead. Like, uh, at this point, uh, we really need to, to really get this bubble popped, um, let people in on the truth that there is only one blockchain. And that is Bitcoin. There are other blockchains. Maybe yes. Uh, as long as they use proof of work, but I tell you right now, uh, it is going to be Bitcoin that's going to be powering this planet. Uh, if it's not Bitcoin, it will be something very, very, very, very, very similar to Bitcoin. So, uh, that is definitely, um, enough already, the blockchain word. Let's, let's get rid of it. People, let's get rid of it. The other good, man. Enough already. Enough already with these R B T C conspiracy theories and fake news. Enough is enough. Gabriel, Devon, what have you had enough of in 2016? Wow. So much enough already this year. I mean, this was like 2016 could almost be considered the year of enough already. And you know what's interesting is, uh, I feel like we actually reached peak enough already in 2016. And, uh, are going to be seeing reality, biting back in 2017, 18, 19 in a way that's is going to really upset the shister. The shillsters, the shills, the scammers, the scamsters, the criminals, the bastards, the pedophiles, the criminals, the baby killers, the murderers and torturers, and the authoritarian surveillance state totalitarian jerk offs. So, um, you know, personally, I just eat it all up. I love everything. I love fake blockchains. I love distributed ledger tech. I love, um, I love alt coins. I love one coin. Um, so, you know what, I actually had had enough already of enough already in 2015 and 2016. Um, I want mo, uh, you know, I have wanted to do that. More, more, more, and the world has been giving me more, more, more, uh, unfortunately for me and my desire for more enough already. I think 2017. Like I said, going to be a reality striking. And, um, you might enough already addiction will go unsatisfied. So I'm going to, uh, say, I've had enough already of enough already. And I think that, uh, I'm going to go meta on the, on the question and say that, um, we should all encourage the bullshit and the scammers as tone rightly points out, um, you know, certain use cases that people like to poo poo such as drugs and, uh, ransomware and gambling are a superb use cases for an anonymous digital currency. And we should encourage one coin because all the people that got scanned with one coin are going to look into Bitcoin and see, oh, that was what they were pretending like they were using. And, and then they're all going to come in. They're going to flood into Bitcoin. So, um, 2016 for me was the year of enough already of enough already. I've also heard that in 2017, all of the celebrities are going to stop dying. No celebrities will die in 2017. Tones, enough already. All right. Um, I have my answer already. I was going to go. I was going to talk about, you know, the high fees and Bitcoin transactions and the full blocks. But, you know what, I'm changing my answer to the low hanging fruit after listening to you guys. Already that your crypto is better than Bitcoin. Why can't people just accept the fact that we now have a censorship resistant value transfer that is fast enough and fungible enough for everything or anything they need to do. Accept it. Yes, you were late and you're not as rich as Roger Vier. I'm not either, right? Like I was late also, but I have accepted that fact. I regret many of my decisions in Bitcoin. Those decisions came after I've acquired some Bitcoin. I don't regret not getting into Bitcoin earlier than I did. And the reason is because I didn't get in. I googled Bitcoin into I heard of Bitcoin in late 2010. Um, was debating whether they should accept it. I've really heard of Bitcoin in mid 2011 when WikiLeaks started accepting it for donations. I never, you know, I was never into drugs. So so crowed never came across my radar. I googled Bitcoin in 2012 and all that came up. And I was working like 12 hour days. I mean, bear stern. I had been like, I had collapsed. That's where I was working. I'm now still in finance working long hours commuting to the city. I was too busy. I looked at Bitcoin in 2012 and also was mining. And I remember saying even out loud. I'm not going to be mining with my computer. I'm not going to like be programming. I hate programming. I was a teen during the Cypress events. I finally got into Bitcoin. And I accepted the fact that I was late. And I didn't become rich. I was late and I accepted that. And I'm happy that Bitcoin exists. And it does what a lot of us. I was a Floritarian. I really wanted it to do. Three to six months. I just get bombarded with this is the latest and greatest thing, whether it's a theory and whether it's steemit. Whether it's the cash. And now it's monarrow. I mean, why I mean, that's what I had enough of enough of your crypto is better and you want to disrupt the system. But stop pushing it on to people. I've already grown out of the fact that I used to push Bitcoin on to people and I've stopped. Emailing and texting me, hey, can I get some Bitcoin and my asses that I'm is I wish I had more Bitcoin. And even if I had more Bitcoin, I still wouldn't sell it to you. Talking about Bitcoin. It's doing its own thing. So I've had that that's what I really had enough of. And I kind of realized it while you guys were talking, which is why this might sound a little ranty right now. But that was like that your crypto is better. And it's not. I'm sorry. It's just not confidence goes a long way. Sadly, they're probably going to call you the maximalist of Maximist, but there's also something about being right. But Mr. Jeffrey Jones was correct enough already. Blockchain is a separate technology. It's great to have an uneditable database stored on multiple servers, but you don't need a blockchain to do it. And if you're going to have a blockchain, you're going to need a token of value to pay people to maintain it. That token of value is Bitcoin. And now without further ado, what you've all been waiting for Bitcoin or of the year, Theo Goodman, who is your Bitcoin or of the year? Ladies and gentlemen, drum roll, please. The Bitcoin or of the year is the Dow hacker. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, he already won one award from coin desk. The blockchain or of the year, Alhacker is also the Bitcoin or of the year. Why is the Dow hacker, the Bitcoin or of the year, when the Dow is not on the Bitcoin blockchain? Well, the so called Dow hacker that simply executed code that was there. What did he do or she do with the Ethereum and Dow tokens that they got? They sold them for Bitcoin. The Dow hacker is a Bitcoiner and the Bitcoiner of 2016. Very good. Gabriel, divine Bitcoin or of the year 2016. There's a lot of superb individuals in the space. I'm going to have to go back to the guy that I've mentioned already three times. He's twice already. He's been at it for years now. I mean, he really started to get making engagements and stuff three years ago. I feel like this year he broke through to a new level of awesome in a way. I know that not everybody's a fan of him. He's extremely open-minded. He'll go and run classic nodes. He doesn't like to be...he's definitely not a partisan. He's definitely a peacemaker type of guy. People get mad at him because they're like, well, not everybody can be right. They're correct about that. The thing is, it's technology. It's very hard to make predictions. If you're a public figure, it's very risky to you. He has to play it safe. Nobody really knows what's going on. I go out on the limb, make conjectures, subscribe to conspiracy ideas. I won't even call them theories since they turn out to be true so often. But Andrea Santanopoulos really has an extremely rare and superb talent for creating these concise, accurate, and aphoristic metaphors that are so illustrative of the many powers and deep change that Bitcoin brings with it into our society, into our culture, into technology. Into the lives of individuals, and into the freedom-loving peoples of the world, and how much impact it has on the world. You could go through his videos. Actually, all you would need to do is pick up his book, which is more from 2013, 2014, 2015, the recent book, which is just... Transcript of his talks. But these talks, almost every single one, and he improvised, like, I feel like 80% of all his talks, each one has a different angle, a different facet, illuminating something in a way that late people can understand. And yet, for us, I won't call this experts, but for us Mavins, it's like a new light bulb moment, almost every time for me. And I feel like he actually kicked it up a gear in 2016. And this year just killed it time after time on these Bitcoin meetups throughout Europe. He was in Europe a lot this year. And of course, North America as well, and even South America, I believe he was in Argentina again. I can't quite remember, but every time I check out his YouTube channel, it's like Zurich, Berlin, Madrid. And each one is different, and it's like this 25-minute talk that just concisely captures a different concept to illustrate the usefulness and power of Bitcoin. In such an incredibly viral way, I feel like some of the Bitcoin price is due to his proselytizing alone. Some small, but significant portion of it is so incredible. He really is able to grip people's emotions, minds, ideas with his incredible phrasing and ability to compress these very complex and far-reaching, concepts into nuggets of wisdom, nuggets of conceptual density that are just so powerful. I think it's great. He's the Bitcoin of the year 2016 for me. Some incredible examples from Andreas. I was surprised you're going that direction. I thought you're going to go with Vinny Lingham. Tony Vays, your thoughts. All right. So I don't think we've mentioned this organization enough on the show today, and they definitely deserve credit. And that organization is block stream. And what they've done was say, we have witnessed and Bitcoin core development in general. So because I don't want to pick any specific core developer, because they're all important from Peter Well to Gregory Maxwell, to Luke Dash Jr. I'm going to go with Adam Back, because he has been named the CEO of that organization, of that company. I think he is like the glue that's holding it all together. And I know how difficult it can be. I mean, again, my Wall Street wasn't a trader. It was working with developers. I was the CTO's right hand man, even though I wasn't. And my job was to make sure that 30 CFAs get their development done by like 20 developers, not all from agreed on stuff. And how to program stuff and all of this. Did these. This is a very difficult job. So for me, to go and steering the ship of block stream is probably the most important position. Higher crypto space. And Adam Back has that honor. He is the year for keeping it all together and getting segred out and making sure that. And not going crazy in this political bickering. The job done. So. So there you go. He's getting my credit for everyone on that team. So I'm going to pick Tom Jeffrey Jones your pick for Bitcoin or the year 2016. Again, so many hardworking people in the space. It's hard to decide. But you know, just a quick point to what Gabriel said, you know, we do talk a lot of crap. Like, you know, Gabriel talks a lot of crap. I talk a lot of crap. We talk a lot of crap on our Twitter and stuff like that. We say a lot of things that people like Andreas and up there and Adam Back and stuff like that. But I just can't say, you know, because there are so, you know, so many people follow them and pay so many people pay attention to them. They have a much greater honor and duty. And so basically it's kind of up to us to talk the crap. Basically, we're the ones that are going to have to talk crap about Roger, talk crap about all of the about Bitcoin unlimited and all these things of you. We kind of say all the crap that they wish they could say, but can't. So I think that's that duty falls that honor and duty falls to us. So just wanted to quick mention that. And then as well. So I have a, you know, and also Andreas, Gabriel's talking about all of the countries. Andreas hit 40 countries. He just recently tweeted that he has now visited 40 countries. So that is something to be said. That's that's one heck of a dedication to Bitcoin and to and to the space and to the movement and to the dedication of spreading the word of Bitcoin. So basically he's not just doing this to get a vacation. He is full time. He is all in leverage hundreds of percent. So then now let's get to my Bitcoin or the year. Basically, I had a couple different people. You know, I wanted to choose well panda. I wanted to choose, you know, Dennis Brunecki on Twitter, because he's I was here. You know, I was trying to retweet as much Bitcoin years as possible. And then block stream. And then I said, I wanted to do block stream. You know, tone had that block stream was just kicking ass. I mean, just come on. Just pay attention to their to their GitHub updates. And you will see the kind of amazing work that these people are putting out. So I guess what I'm going to have to go with maybe a little bit off the side is I'm going to have to go with Edward Snowden. Believe it or not, because here's why. So technically he got on Twitter September of 2015. So I technically wasn't 2016. But I mean the the the the storm that this man created on Twitter when he joined it. I mean, even Twitter had to release a couple of info graphics about what happened to the Twitter network when this freaking dude got on Twitter. I mean, it was just it just exploded all over the world. And and the news and the information that this guy has been delivering over the past year. Specifically, I mean, just dissecting all of the fake news giving us insights into all these different hacking organizations. It's just been been giving us clarity. And of course, you know, I mean, he has been fighting for the American citizen. I mean, so much more than the average American citizen. I mean, this guy is dedicated his life to to to to serving the public. And it really shows with this tweets and with the information that he's that he spreads. And you know, I mean, it's just it's absolutely it's just been a privilege to be to be able to follow a man like this on a platform like Twitter like where I can just be inside his head like I can just get and see what he's thinking what he's what what's going on. It's just been a privilege has been an honor. It's been amazing. And you know, just to live in this age in general, of course with Twitter. It's just been great. But but to have Edward Snowden come on there and just rock the world man. Right. And of course, his I love how we of course he's only fought still only following the NSA. There's the one person that he's following absolutely hilarious. Of course, he's got a million people on his list. But but man, that was just funny. I still only following NSA. So that's my big corner of you because he, you know, in the information that he spreads is not just about politics and stuff. It's also about banks. There's also information that's very, very important to Bitcoin that he spreads. And so this is another reason why I think that it very much dovetails into Bitcoin, FinTech and you know this type of this type of digital hacking and security that we now find us being in the age of the information age. So Edward Snowden, that's my big corner of the year. Excellent pick, Jeffrey also saw his life documented in the movie by Oliver Stone starring Joseph Gordon Levitt follow up question. Will Joseph Gordon Levitt receive a nomination for the best actor Oscar? Yes or no? Hell yes. Not even the political's the political's aside. He'll still be nominated. Stick it with it. Alright, excellent movie Snowden, check that out. But our pick for Bitcoin or of the year is. Mad bitcoins aka Thomas hunt through trials and tribulation hunt one of the founders of the world crypto network, a founder of the pro tip project creator of the mad bitcoins program continues to create and expand Bitcoin and everything he does. Despite having to deal with those who don't believe or those who only believe in blockchain or only believe in the coin of the week, you can now hire Thomas hunt in the San Francisco area for Bitcoin marketing hire Thomas hunt today or support his Patreon and Bitcoin account to the point where he doesn't have to work and could just make Bitcoin videos for living. Higher Thomas hunt today now honorable mention Theo Goodman honorable mention 2016. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, let me get the envelope out 100% provably fair. Okay, got a long sheet of honorable mentions. It's been a long year, ladies and gentlemen. There's been a lot of going on. We have a small list of honorable mentions. So first of all, erm, in the professor for knowing more than all of us and inventing the concept of selfish mining. Tim Swanson for being the best blocker on Twitter and Jeremy allure of circle for dropping Bitcoin in a post election hangover of panic and utter disbelief. And last but not least, of course, RBTC for being the center of fake news of Bitcoin. It's like the end of the Godfather. Theo is just throwing it down, settling all the family business Gabriel, divine honorable mention 2016. Honorable mention 2016. Where do I begin so much honor to go around so many great people. I would have mentioned you Thomas, but since you chose yourself a Bitcoin to the air, I'm going to have to go with Jeffrey Jones. You know, the one vortex at the one vortex on Twitter, Jeffrey has been terrific fellow. He has been working very diligently on his show, the Bitcoin news show. I am privileged and grateful enough to have been and frequent guest on that show. And you know, it's a he I think, but my I think my favorite thing about Jeffrey Jones, aka vortex is his tweets actually some terrific terrific tweets. So I'm going to go with the vortex. Ton vays honorable mention 2016. Oh man, I was like, okay, so for me, the honorable mention and I guess I'm going to make it plural honorable mentions of 2016 are the politically incorrect. And to be more specific, I think the Bitcoin on sensor podcast deserves a lot of credit for a lot of the great work that they do. Christopher rolls and John Seth are two of the smartest man in Bitcoin. And I think they deserve a mention and also the people that they mention that are politically incorrect. The honorable mention, which is people like royal Tiffany and interviews that they do with Billy, the gay prostitute and Barack, the back page driver, they do a lot of investigative analysis in this space. I'm one of the few podcasts that I like. Yes, I do listen to that podcast. I usually fall way behind and I catch up on me and them have similar opinions and I've often been accused of just like stealing their views. But that's because they just have a louder voice very often. I beat them to a lot of this news because our podcast is on Fridays and I believe they do theirs on Sunday. So it really depends what order people are listening to these things. I really like what they have to say. And I'm glad that they're in a space. I think that the politically incorrect deserve an honorable mention. Jeffrey Jones, you were mentioned in this category. Do you have a pick for honorable mention 2016? Let's see, just a couple. We really, you know, Will Panda was one of the ones that I mentioned. You know, I did mention Dennis for an Eski. You know, I a couple of my honorable mentions actually are for code really because I'll beat 151. I mean, I really hope that that one's going to get posted soon. You know, 151 is really important. That's encrypted connections between the nodes, then mimble, wimble. We got tumbled bit. So all this awesome encryption stuff is coming into Bitcoin to make it even more secure. And that's just got to be my honorable mention. Just just big coins for lentless refusal to really schedule. Yeah, it's just this relentless to go into that good night. Right. So yeah, you know, all these other coins like Manero, they're all those, they're always all these other coins. They're all pushing all of these different securities. And that's great. But Bitcoin will be still coming out on top. I can't kill you. Yeah, I was going to say tour like there's a couple of names that I really just was hoping that we would mention and one of them was Will Panda. You doing great work. Well, Panda awesome. Keep it up. I really like well Panda and to to to the me stirred. Again, great works. I know somebody asked me the other day, like which people I think I have to do a Twitter like which people do you are you really impressed with the follow you and honestly, my answer is worse. Not going to be people that are famous. It's going to be people like to the me stir and people like well Panda because I really like and I pay attention to their tweets. So I really like it that they keep an eye on my Twitter feed and occasionally read my stuff and they're not, you know, it's definitely not globally and they are known in the crypto space, but I really like the work that they have been doing just relentless tweets and not wasted tweets every tweet they make has a purpose and a reason. It's also how I try to focus mine as well, not not counting direct tweets to people those should count. Twitter shouldn't even keep a tab on how many you sent like that. Well, they're running every fire truck in San Francisco and my neighborhood all of the sirens are overlapping as we prepare for honorable mention, Bitcoin or the year 2016. The team that scaled and supported Bitcoin truly the heroes of Bitcoin, the developers of SegWit lightning network, block stream and others who did the actual dirty work and got the job done. They expanded the block size slightly upheld their views despite criticism and divergent projects and in the end Bitcoin for the win Bitcoin in DURZ. The price now buoyed by the Havnings supply short the Chinese capital controls and the war on cash seems to be ascending and with the price goes interest in Bitcoin. And we now see views on videos expanding and replies on Twitter increasing welcome to Bitcoin new Bitcoiners and welcome back to old Bitcoiners who have hottled for the longest time. 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