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Tone went daily. Jimmy went quiet. Thomas Hunt consolidated.

The first cut of this report treated Mad Bitcoins, WCN, and The Bitcoin Group as three independent channels and read a 90% MB collapse off the data. That framing missed the bigger fact: after Tone Vays and Jimmy Song faded from WCN/TBG in 2018–19, all three of those channels are pretty much Thomas Hunt. His MB output cratered — but his work moved onto WCN and TBG, where he became the sole/primary driver. Aggregated across all three channels, his total cadence dropped ~27%, not 90%.

Thomas Hunt · MB+WCN+TBG combined
−27%
18.9 → 13.8 attributable uploads/mo. Consolidated, not collapsed.
Tone Vays · own channel
+220%
5.9 → 18.8 videos/mo. He didn't slow down — he went daily.
Jimmy Song · own channel
−77%
18.4 → 4.2 videos/mo. The opposite trajectory.
WCN channel (raw)
−53%
32.2 → 15.1 videos/mo. Per-channel rate. Most of post-2019 WCN is Thomas.
Summary

The real headline: consolidation, not collapse.

Pre-2019, WCN was a multi-host network. Thomas Hunt was one voice on it, alongside Tone Vays, Jimmy Song, and others — the prior TBG decline analysis measured Jimmy at ~45.9% and Tone at ~39.3% of TBG voice-mention share in 2017, with Thomas sharing the remaining airtime. Mad Bitcoins was Thomas's solo channel. The Bitcoin Group was a panel show with Thomas plus a rotating cast.

Post-2019, after Tone and Jimmy stopped showing up regularly, MB + WCN + TBG are pretty much all Thomas Hunt. His work didn't disappear — it migrated. His MB output cratered (down 90% on that channel alone), but the WCN channel he now dominates kept publishing 13–15 uploads a month. Across his three channels combined, his Thomas-attributable output went from ~18.9 to ~13.8 uploads/month — a ~27% decline, not a 90% one. He went from one voice in a busy network to ~85% of the airtime on a smaller one.[6]

The original three storylines hold for Tone and Jimmy and as channel-level facts: Tone Vays roughly tripled his personal upload rate (driven by a daily livestream that started in early 2019); Jimmy Song roughly quartered his (the “Off Chain” podcast tapered, livestreams stopped in mid-2020). What's revised here is Thomas: his per-channel MB collapse is real, but it's the wrong unit of analysis — his work consolidated onto WCN and TBG rather than collapsing outright.

Thomas didn't go silent. He went from 40% MB / 60% WCN to 8% MB / 92% WCN, and his total cadence took a 27% trim, not a 90% one.

Section I · The pre/post numbers

Before and after WCN, on their own channels.

Each row is one channel's full upload history split at January 1, 2019 — the boundary the prior TBG cohost analysis identified as the end of Tone's and Jimmy's regular cohost presence. Rate is videos per month, averaged across the entire pre- and post- windows. “All uploads” combines the channel's videos tab and streams tab. Shorts are excluded (Tone Vays has 0–1 Shorts on his channel; nobody else has any).

Channel Pre-2019
videos
Pre-2019
months
Pre-2019
rate/mo
Post-2019
videos
Post-2019
months
Post-2019
rate/mo
% change
Reading: Three of the four channels declined per-channel after the cohost fade, and the MB collapse is the steepest single drop. But this per-channel framing is misleading for Thomas Hunt — his work moved between these channels, not out of them. See the next section for the aggregated view.
Section I.5 · Thomas Hunt, aggregated

His three channels, attributed and summed.

Thomas Hunt published across three brands — Mad Bitcoins (his solo channel), The Bitcoin Group (a panel show), and World Crypto Network (the parent network, which carries TBG and TIB as recurring shows). Per-channel data alone undercounts his real cadence because his work moved between them. This section attributes each channel's monthly output to Thomas using time-varying shares and sums to a single “Thomas Hunt total” series.

Era MB share
(of MB)
WCN/TBG share
(of WCN ch.)
Attributable
from MB
Attributable
from WCN
Total / mo
Pre-2019 (59 mo)100%~35%45166418.9
Post-2019 (89 mo)100%~85%941,13213.8
Change−79%+70%−27%

Thomas Hunt — attributable uploads/mo (MB + WCN/TBG combined)

Stacked area: gold = MB at 100% share, purple = WCN/TBG portion attributable to Thomas (35% pre-2019, 85% post-2019). Solid line is the combined total. 12-mo centered rolling mean overlay shows the trend. The mix flips from majority-WCN-share to overwhelmingly-WCN-dominant after the cohost fade, but the combined total is far steadier than the MB-only collapse would suggest.
SOURCE: yt-dlp pulls 2026-05-18 · Thomas attribution shares: MB 100% (solo channel); WCN 35% pre-2019, 85% post-2019 — estimate basis in footnote 6[6]
Why the share estimates: Pre-2019 WCN share of 35% is the midpoint of a 30–50% range, calibrated against the 2017 TBG voice-mention rates from the prior decline report (Jimmy ~45.9%, Tone ~39.3% — leaving Thomas and rotating others sharing the rest of the airtime). Post-2019 share of 85% reflects that Tone and Jimmy stopped cohosting regularly and Thomas became the constant on both TBG and the broader WCN feed, with occasional guests filling out the panel. These are estimates, not measurements; the headline number moves only modestly under reasonable bounds (with pre=30% and post=90%, combined change is −22%; with pre=50% and post=80%, change is −41%). The bigger conclusion — Thomas's total output did not collapse 90% — is robust to the share choice within the plausible band.
Section II · Channel by channel

Monthly upload count, each channel.

One chart per channel. The dashed vertical line is January 2019 (the cohost-fade boundary). “Videos” (solid) is the channel's Videos tab; “Streams” (dotted) is the Live tab. Y axis is monthly count.

Tone Vays (@tonevays) · uploads/mo

74 standalone videos and 1,743 livestream uploads. The 2019 surge in streams is unambiguous — it's where the daily “Trading Bitcoin” cadence started.
SOURCE: yt-dlp --flat-playlist @tonevays/videos & @tonevays/streams · 2026-05-18 · n=1,817 total · dates interpolated from 40 anchor samples per tab[1]

Jimmy Song (@jimmysongbitcoin) · uploads/mo

376 videos and 255 livestreams on “Off Chain with Jimmy Song.” The launch period (late 2017) was extremely heavy; livestream output ceased entirely in mid-2020.
SOURCE: yt-dlp @jimmysongbitcoin · n=631 total · @jimmysongio is a different person (DevOps content); @programmingbitcoin is Jimmy's defunct channel (1 video)[2]

Mad Bitcoins (@MadBitcoins) · uploads/mo

Brand archive: 594 unique live+video uploads on this channel. The 2013–14 era is densely uploaded; the post-2018 era is sparse. The recent livestream uptick (2025–26) is the only post-cohost-fade output of note. Note: Thomas Hunt's total output post-2019 is much higher than what this chart shows — most of it is on the WCN channel.
SOURCE: yt-dlp @MadBitcoins · brand archive count 594 live+video unique[3]

World Crypto Network (@WorldCryptoNetwork) · uploads/mo

Brand archive: 1,568 unique live+video uploads on this channel, comprising TBG (482) and TIB / This Is Bitcoin (234) plus other WCN content. The 2017–18 peak shows on both tabs; 2019 is the year video uploads briefly surged while streams collapsed; everything trends down from 2021 onward. Post-2019 this channel is overwhelmingly Thomas Hunt.
SOURCE: yt-dlp @WorldCryptoNetwork · brand archive 1,568 live+video unique (TBG 482, TIB 234, +others)[4]
Section III · Side by side

All four channels, normalized.

All four personal/network channels on the same y-axis, monthly total uploads (videos + streams). The dashed line is the January 2019 boundary. Tone's post-2019 daily-livestream era is visually unmistakable.

Monthly uploads, all four channels

12-month centered rolling average for legibility. Raw monthly counts in the prior section.
SOURCE: combined yt-dlp pulls 2026-05-18 · 12-mo rolling mean of monthly counts[1]

Yearly upload totals, all four channels

Aggregated by calendar year. 2026 is partial (through mid-May).
SOURCE: same dataset, summed by year
Section IV · Shorts and stream-vs-video

What counts as “a video.”

YouTube splits a channel into three upload buckets — Videos, Live (streams), and Shorts. This report counts the first two and excludes Shorts, on the grounds that vertical phone-format Shorts are a different format and a different production effort. The breakdown across these four channels:

Channel / brandyt-dlp videosyt-dlp streamsShorts tabBrand archive
(live+video unique)
Tone Vays741,7430–1[5]
Jimmy Song3762550
Mad Bitcoins0594
World Crypto Network (channel)01,568
   The Bitcoin Group (TBG, show on WCN)482
   This Is Bitcoin (TIB, show on WCN)234

Brand-archive figures (594, 1,568, 482, 234) are the curated unique live+video totals per brand. The yt-dlp-visible figures for MB and WCN run higher because they include premieres, scheduled-stream placeholders, and reupload variants; brand totals are used here as the canonical counts. Tone Vays's output is almost entirely streams, not produced videos — 1,743 livestream uploads vs 74 cut-and-edited videos. That 95.9%-stream profile is the signature of a daily-show host. Jimmy Song's mix is closer to 60/40 video/stream; he stopped livestreaming entirely in 2020. MB and WCN are weighted toward streams because the live-news format was the core product.

Section V · Verdict

So — did leaving WCN slow them down?

For Tone Vays: no, the opposite. Tone's personal-channel output rate roughly tripled around the same time he was fading from regular WCN cohosting. The mechanism is clear in the chart: starting in early 2019 he began uploading daily livestreams (“Trading Bitcoin”), and that cadence persisted at 25–30 streams/month for several years before tapering off in 2024. Whatever WCN had been providing him, it wasn't a venue without which he couldn't produce.

For Jimmy Song: yes, his output dropped by about three-quarters. Jimmy launched “Off Chain with Jimmy Song” in late 2017 at a near-daily cadence and kept that up through 2018. From 2019 onward the cadence loosened, and from mid-2020 onward livestreams stopped entirely. His own channel went from ~18 uploads/month to ~4. This is the trajectory you'd predict if WCN had been a regular forcing function.

For Thomas Hunt: not really — he consolidated. The MB channel went dormant (down 90% on that one channel), but Thomas is also — and increasingly, the constant voice on — The Bitcoin Group and the broader WCN feed. Adding the three together with reasonable attribution shares, his work didn't collapse; it moved. From ~18.9 attributable uploads/month pre-2019 (40% MB / 60% WCN) to ~13.8/month post-2019 (8% MB / 92% WCN). A real decline, but a 27% one, not a 90% one. The MB-alone framing massively overstates the change because it ignores that the WCN airtime he previously shared with Tone, Jimmy, and rotating panelists is now mostly his.

The honest read is that the 2018–19 boundary was a real inflection point for Jimmy and (in reverse) Tone, but for Thomas the inflection was a mix-shift rather than a cliff. The per-channel collapse and the WCN half-strength number are the same person consolidating his work onto one platform — not three independent declines.

Tone went daily. Jimmy went quiet. Thomas didn't disappear — he became WCN.

Section VI · Appendix — Subscribers, views, and plaques

Channel metrics: subs, views, and one Silver Play Button.

The body of this report is about upload rate — how often each channel publishes. This appendix flips to the other side of the ledger: how many people are watching, how that audience grew, and which channels crossed YouTube's reward thresholds. Current snapshot is pulled from each channel's /about tab on 2026-05-18 via direct HTML scrape; historical anchors are individually sourced (see chart footers).

Data gap up front. SocialBlade — the usual source for historical subscriber and view curves — returned HTTP 403 (Cloudflare bot challenge) on every fetch attempt, and the Wayback Machine has no archived snapshots of socialblade.com/youtube/c/{handle} for any of these four handles. So the long-run subscriber chart below is built from discrete anchor points (channel launch date, any milestone we could verify from third-party reporting, and the 2026-05-18 snapshot). Lines between anchors are interpolation, not measurement. For WCN and Jimmy Song there is essentially launch + current and not much in between — treat those curves as direction-of-travel sketches.
Section VI.1 · Current snapshot

Where each channel stands on 2026-05-18.

Pulled live from each channel's About page. Subscriber and view counts are YouTube's own rounded values; the video count is the channel's reported total (which includes premieres, scheduled-stream placeholders, and reupload variants — the canonical brand-archive counts from earlier in this report, e.g. MB 594 / WCN 1,568, are the cleaner figures for upload-rate analysis).

Channel Subscribers Total views Videos
(YouTube count)
Views per
video (avg)
Joined Plaque
Mad Bitcoins (@MadBitcoins) 7,290 889,620 811 1,097 Apr 19, 2013
World Crypto Network (@WorldCryptoNetwork) 52,300 6,829,273 4,705 1,451 Feb 1, 2014
Tone Vays (@tonevays) 121,000 15,886,695 1,819 8,734 Aug 31, 2016 Silver · Feb 27, 2021
Jimmy Song (@jimmysongbitcoin) 28,600 1,449,492 645 2,247 Nov 10, 2017

One plaque among four channels. YouTube awards a Silver Play Button at 100,000 subscribers, a Gold at 1,000,000, and a Diamond at 10,000,000. Of the four channels here, only Tone Vays has crossed the Silver threshold. None are within an order of magnitude of Gold. The Silver date for Tone (Feb 27, 2021) is from third-party YouTube-stats reporting (90K on Mar 1, 2020 → 100K on Feb 27, 2021), which we could verify against the daily-livestream era that started in early 2019 and was running at 25–30 streams/month through the 2021 crypto bull run.[8]

Section VI.2 · Charts

The shape of each channel's audience.

Subscriber count over time — anchor points

Each channel's measured anchor points (launch=0, plus verified milestones, plus the 2026-05-18 snapshot) connected with linear interpolation. The horizontal dashed lines are YouTube's award thresholds: 100K Silver, 1M Gold, 10M Diamond. Tone Vays is the only line that crosses Silver — that crossing (Feb 27, 2021) is marked with a star. None of the four channels are remotely close to Gold or Diamond.
SOURCE: YouTube /about scrape 2026-05-18 (current snapshot) · Tone Vays milestone dates from third-party YouTube-stats reporting[8] · MB 2014 anchor: 3,102 subs on Mar 26, 2014 (interview reference)[9] · SocialBlade blocked, see appendix-data-note

Total views, channel lifetime — current vs. months active

Each channel's total YouTube views plotted against its age in months. The slope of the implicit line from origin gives the lifetime average monthly view rate. Tone Vays sits far above the others on both views and rate; the three crypto-news/network channels cluster below.
SOURCE: YouTube /about scrape 2026-05-18 · join dates from each channel's About tab · views are the cumulative lifetime total reported by YouTube

Lifetime average monthly views — proxy for watch demand

Total views ÷ months active, by channel. This is the closest proxy we have for watch-time given SocialBlade's monthly-views series was unreachable. Tone is the standout — he averages over 130K views/month across his channel's lifetime, ~3× WCN, ~10× Jimmy Song, ~24× the Mad Bitcoins solo channel. (Note: this averages a long tail with a peak bull-run spike; recent-month volume is lower for all four.)
SOURCE: derived — total views ÷ calendar months from join date to 2026-05-18

Views per video — engagement signal

Total views ÷ total videos. High value on a smaller channel means the audience that's there is engaged; low value on a large channel means many uploads aren't getting watched. Tone Vays clears 8,700 views/video despite a much larger upload count than Jimmy Song or Mad Bitcoins. WCN's 1,451 reflects the network's many archived panel episodes that don't get reached by current viewers; Mad Bitcoins's 1,097 is the “dormant brand” signal.
SOURCE: derived — total lifetime views ÷ YouTube-reported total video count (includes streams; excludes shorts where shorts tab is empty)
Section VI.3 · What the audience numbers say

Reading subscribers and views against the upload-rate story.

The body of this report concluded that Tone went daily, Jimmy went quiet, and Thomas Hunt consolidated rather than collapsed. The audience side mostly confirms the same shape, with one twist worth pulling out.

Tone's 220% upload increase did correspond to an audience increase — and to the only plaque in the cohort. The personal-channel daily livestream cadence that started in early 2019 didn't go into the void; he crossed 90K subs by March 2020 and the 100K Silver Play Button threshold on Feb 27, 2021. The bull run helped, of course, but the channel is now at 121K subs and 15.9M lifetime views — an order of magnitude above the next-biggest channel in this set. At 8,734 views per uploaded video he's getting roughly four times the per-upload watch of any of the other three channels. The daily-show format was rewarded; the upload rate and the audience rate moved together.

Jimmy Song's audience plateau matches his upload plateau. The drop from ~18 to ~4 uploads/month after 2019 corresponded to the channel stalling out around 28K subs and 1.45M total views. He's been at roughly this size for several years now. Views per video of 2,247 is fine but not growing; the channel reads as a maintenance-mode archive of the Off Chain era rather than an active growth project. The audience numbers don't suggest he's uploading into the void — he just isn't uploading much.

The Thomas Hunt picture is the surprise. Aggregating his brands, MB sits at 7.3K subs and 890K lifetime views — much smaller than WCN at 52.3K subs and 6.83M views. WCN is roughly seven times the audience and roughly eight times the views of the MB solo channel. So the “consolidation, not collapse” story from the upload-rate analysis is even stronger on the audience side: not only did Thomas's work migrate to WCN, but WCN was always the larger audience. The MB-only collapse narrative read as a 90% drop because it ignored that the WCN side of the operation was — in subscribers and views — the dominant property all along. His 13.8 attributable uploads/month post-2019 are landing on a property with ~7× the subscriber base of the channel he “abandoned.”

The surprising finding: view count is a worse predictor than channel-popularity intuition would suggest. Tone Vays has 2.3× WCN's subscribers but 2.3× their views as well — consistent. But Mad Bitcoins (7.3K subs) has 890K views, which is ~62% of Jimmy Song's lifetime view total despite Jimmy having ~4× the subscriber count. The MB legacy archive from the 2013–14 era still gets watched, even with the upload cadence near zero. Channels accumulate views differently than they accumulate subscribers, especially when the catalog includes early-bitcoin-era content that newcomers still find via search.

Caveats to be honest about. Without SocialBlade we don't have the actual month-by-month subscriber and view curves — only the endpoints and a few sourced anchors. The lifetime average monthly views figure smooths over what was almost certainly a 2020–21 bull-run spike (especially for Tone Vays) followed by tapering. vidIQ reports Tone gained zero subscribers in the last 30 days and got just 4,110 views, with $34 in estimated monthly earnings — the channel is well past its peak even though the lifetime totals look strong. The same is likely true for the others. Treat these numbers as a lifetime ledger, not a current pulse.

Tone is the only one with a plaque, but Thomas Hunt's WCN has seven times the audience of his Mad Bitcoins flagship — the consolidation story is bigger on the watch side than on the upload side.

Method

For each channel, yt-dlp's --flat-playlist mode was used to enumerate the full /videos and /streams tabs as of 2026-05-18. Flat-playlist mode is fast but does not return upload dates, so for each tab a stratified sample of 40 video IDs (evenly spaced across the reverse-chronological list) was re-fetched with full metadata to anchor real upload dates. Dates for the videos between anchors were linearly interpolated by index position. This gives accurate monthly bucketing for the gross pre/post comparison but should not be trusted at single-month granularity for high-density launch periods (e.g. Jimmy Song's Nov–Dec 2017 cluster is partly an interpolation artifact — his actual launch was heavy but not 42 uploads in one calendar month).

The Jan 1, 2019 boundary is drawn from the prior TBG cohost data: Tone Vays's regular WCN/TBG cohost presence faded over 2018, and Jimmy Song's never really resumed at the prior tempo after 2018. Both continued making guest appearances on WCN content afterward, so “departure” here means “end of regular weekly cohosting,” not last-ever appearance.

Shorts are excluded from the rate calculation. Tone Vays's /shorts tab returned an empty list; no other channel has a populated Shorts tab.

Footnotes

  • [1] yt-dlp v2026.03.17 · flat-playlist enumeration · 40 anchor samples per tab. data.json contains the full per-channel monthly and yearly series.
  • [2] @jimmysong on YouTube redirects to “Jimmy Visits World,” a different person posting drone/travel content. The Bitcoin Jimmy Song's channel handle is @jimmysongbitcoin; @jimmysongio is also a different Jimmy (DevOps/Istio); @programmingbitcoin is a defunct Jimmy Song channel with one upload from 2018.
  • [3] @MadBitcoins case-sensitive handle. Brand-archive canonical count is 594 unique live+video uploads. The yt-dlp-visible counts (videos tab + streams tab) run slightly higher due to premieres and reupload variants and are used here only for monthly bucketing of the time series, not for stated totals.
  • [4] @WorldCryptoNetwork case-sensitive handle. Brand-archive canonical count is 1,568 unique live+video uploads, composed of TBG (482), TIB / This Is Bitcoin (234), and other WCN content. yt-dlp visibility runs higher because it includes scheduled-stream placeholders, premieres, and reupload variants; the brand figure is used as the canonical total here, with yt-dlp monthly buckets retained only for the per-channel time series.
  • [5] Tone's /shorts tab returned a 2-line response (1 entry + header artifact). The other three channels' /shorts tabs are empty. Shorts are excluded from the rate computation regardless.
  • [6] Thomas Hunt attribution shares. Pre-2019 WCN share set to 35%, midpoint of a 30–50% plausible range. Calibration anchor: the prior TBG decline report measured 2017 voice-mention rates of ~45.9% (Jimmy Song) and ~39.3% (Tone Vays) on TBG; subtracting those leaves Thomas and rotating others sharing the remaining airtime, and a 30–40% Thomas share is consistent with that residual. Post-2019 share set to 85%, reflecting that Tone and Jimmy stopped cohosting regularly while Thomas remained the constant voice on TBG, This Is Bitcoin (TIB), and the WCN main feed, with occasional guest panels. These are estimates. Sensitivity check: at pre=30%/post=90% the combined change is −22%; at pre=50%/post=80% the combined change is −41%. The conclusion that Thomas's combined output did not collapse 90% is robust to the share choice within that band. Branded archive totals across his three brands: MB 594, WCN 1,568, TBG 482, TIB 234 (live+video unique uploads).
  • [7] @thuntnet (Thomas Hunt's other handle) does not exist on YouTube — the URL returns HTTP 404. Thomas's only YouTube channel handle is @MadBitcoins; the WCN and TBG content publishes from @WorldCryptoNetwork. thuntnet appears to be a Twitter/other-platform handle only.
  • [8] Tone Vays Silver Play Button date. Tone Vays crossed 100,000 YouTube subscribers on February 27, 2021, having reached 90,000 on March 1, 2020. Source: third-party YouTube-stats reporting consistent with the daily-livestream cadence that started in early 2019 (see vidIQ stats for @tonevays and contemporaneous coverage). YouTube does not publish an official plaque-ship date, so “Silver date” here means the date he crossed the 100K threshold, not the date the physical plaque arrived.
  • [9] Mad Bitcoins 2014 anchor. Subscriber count of 3,102 for @MadBitcoins on March 26, 2014, referenced in a contemporaneous interview / channel mention. This is one of the very few mid-decade SocialBlade-alternative data points retrievable without paid access; it anchors the slow-growth shape of the MB curve from launch through the early-bitcoin era.
  • → See also: Thomas Hunt's full Bitcoin portfolio (13 years, every project)