TBG-360

$45,000? - Exchanges Low - Oh Caroline - The Environment - Fentanyl

May 27, 2023 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Was Bitcoin's next direction being set by macro comparisons to gold, exchange supply leaving custody platforms, and the approaching halving, or by the political and reputational pressure still surrounding crypto?

The panel was effectively Thomas alone, so the episode landed as a self-argument rather than a split table. Thomas declared himself both bullish and bearish on price, then leaned constructive on self-custody, the halving, and hostile headlines that still demonstrated Bitcoin functioning as money. The chat pushed back around exchange balances, Caroline Ellison, and Lightning, but the broad landing remained that Bitcoin was absorbing the week's criticism without losing its basic monetary argument.

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Thomas was openly conflicted on near-term price, but more positive on custody, halving supply pressure, and Bitcoin's continued use as a payments network.

What they were watching

The directional consensus was deliberately unresolved: gold-driven upside to $45,000 was entertained, but Thomas also cited the possibility of a fall to $13,000 and the Biden administration's crypto crackdown. The organic price frame was not a forecast table, but a contrast between JPMorgan's $45,000 scenario, the chat's $45,000-to-$13,000 warning, and the Magic 8 Ball's bearish answer.

Gold, JPMorgan, and Price Ambivalence

The show opened with JPMorgan's claim that a rising gold price could help push Bitcoin toward $45,000. Thomas refused to give a clean directional answer, saying he was always bullish from experience but also willing to argue the bearish case because of regulatory pressure.

Magic 8 Ball Turns Bearish

The Magic 8 Ball segment asked whether Bitcoin would rise by the next week. Its answer, "Outlook not so good," gave the first issue a dry bearish punchline rather than a sustained forecast.

Coins Leaving Exchanges

Bitcoin and Ethereum exchange balances moving toward five-year lows were framed as a post-FTX self-custody story. Thomas saw it as constructive, especially for Bitcoin, while acknowledging the chat's concern that reduced exchange liquidity could cut both ways if large holders returned to sell.

The Halving as the Calendar

Thomas tied exchange supply and future price pressure to the next Bitcoin halving. He described the block reward being cut roughly from six and a half to three and a half coins, and argued that from now until the event, and perhaps after it, the market conversation would orbit the halving effect.

Caroline Ellison and Moral Ambivalence

The Fortune profile of Caroline Ellison became a discussion of effective altruism, risk, whistleblowing, and whether the article softened her role in the FTX collapse. Thomas was sympathetic to parts of her intellectual background but landed against excusing her choices, while the chat judged her more harshly.

Senator Lummis and Bitcoin's Energy Case

Cynthia Lummis's claim that Bitcoin can help with environmental cleanup led to a discussion of methane flaring, grid balancing, and the political value of having allies in the Senate. Thomas did not oversell the energy argument, but he treated the presence of a pro-Bitcoin senator as meaningful.

Fentanyl, USDT, and Bitcoin as Money

The Elliptic story about Bitcoin and tether being used to pay Chinese chemical suppliers was treated as a hostile headline that nevertheless confirmed Bitcoin's payment utility. Thomas rejected the idea that illicit use was uniquely a Bitcoin problem, placing it beside dollars, pounds, and euros as money that can be used for bad transactions.

One-Man Show and Cultural Debris

With guests absent, Thomas closed by reading the chat and offering a loose story-of-the-week segment. Zelda, Guardians of the Galaxy, Shoe Dog, the writers' strike, and the debt ceiling all appeared as surrounding cultural weather while the show admitted its own improvised form.

I'm both bullish and bearish about the price of Bitcoin.— Thomas Hunt
Outlook not so good.— Magic 8 Ball
You don't need to trust a third party with your Bitcoin.— Thomas Hunt
It's kind of the whole thing that Bitcoin was designed for.— Thomas Hunt
I know a snitch when I see one and she's a snitch.— backster Churchill
This is the rock and roll music of our time.— Thomas Hunt

Story of the Week

The Halving Turns Every Story Into Supply

The episode kept returning to the coming halving as the quiet force behind unrelated stories. Exchange balances, self-custody after FTX, gold comparisons, and even price ambivalence were all folded into the same calendar. Thomas treated the halving less as a single event than as the organizing weather system for the year ahead. Even when the news moved to Ellison, environmental politics, or fentanyl payments, the underlying posture was that Bitcoin's supply schedule remained the institutional fact in the room.

whether you like it or not every week from now till the haveening is about the haveening.— Thomas Hunt
A thin panel became a one-man archive entry, with Bitcoin still leaving exchanges, critics still writing headlines, and the halving already claiming the calendar.
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