TBG-309

Bear Market? - Saved by the Halvening - Commodification - Stolen Ape

May 27, 2022 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Was the market downturn a terminal judgment on Bitcoin, or merely the familiar pause before institutional allocation, regulation, and the next halving cycle reasserted themselves?

The panel partially agreed: Dan Eve saw near-term weakness still rippling from Terra-Luna and regulation anxiety, while Thomas Hunt leaned more constructive after the stock-market rebound and Fed news. On the halving, both treated the event itself as essentially certain, but Dan was doubtful about $100,000 before the next halving while Thomas argued the media cycle and fixed supply could pull that repricing forward. On regulation and Seth Green's stolen ape, they agreed more than they split: cautious approval for bipartisan engagement, and little confidence that courts could simply reverse NFT ownership.

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The episode balanced near-term caution and market damage against long-term confidence in Bitcoin scarcity, institutional access, and the 2024 halving.

What they were watching

The directional consensus was unresolved: Dan expected more downside, Thomas expected recovery, and the miniature Magic 8 Ball declined to settle it. Organic levels included the former all-time high around 67,000, Bitcoin being roughly 60% down from that high, the current area around 28,000 to 29,000, and the standing question of whether $100,000 would arrive before or after the next halving.

Fidelity investors arrive in a bad tape

The show opened with Fidelity's Bitcoin fund growing from about 83 investors to 689 even as broader markets sold off. Dan read it as a sign that some investors were using lower prices to start long-term positions, while Thomas framed it as the kind of behavior associated with patient capital rather than market enthusiasm.

Dollar-cost averaging, correctly understood

Thomas and Dan treated the downturn as a test of whether people actually follow their own long-term strategy. Dan emphasized that a lower market is when gradual accumulation makes more sense, while Thomas warned that stopping only after prices fall defeats the purpose of averaging.

The halving as an eclipse-like mechanism

The second issue centered on a forecast tying $100,000 Bitcoin to the 2024 halving. Dan stressed that issuance falls mechanically from 6.25 Bitcoin per block to 3.125 and that the network hash rate remained strong; Thomas emphasized that Bitcoin's recurring supply cuts are obvious in hindsight but repeatedly underappreciated before each cycle.

Before or after $100,000

Dan was skeptical that Bitcoin would reach $100,000 before the next halving, though he treated a post-halving move as highly likely. Thomas took the opposite side, arguing that media attention, institutional memory, and the fixed supply story could drive repricing before the event itself.

A bipartisan commodity framework

The panel discussed the Lummis-Gillibrand effort to build a cryptocurrency regulatory baseline and classify Bitcoin and Ethereum more like commodities. Dan disliked the commodity framing because Bitcoin was designed as currency, but both he and Thomas saw political engagement as preferable to prohibition.

The environmental objection remains in Congress

Dan warned that Bitcoin's energy use would remain an obstacle for legislators aligned with climate policy. Thomas countered with the show's familiar argument that Bitcoin's energy use is measurable and defensible, while admitting that figures like Elizabeth Warren could still make passage difficult.

Seth Green and the stolen ape problem

The final major segment examined Seth Green's stolen Bored Ape and the threatened legal fight over whether the NFT and its character rights could be recovered. Dan focused on phishing, signing risk, and the ambiguity of downstream buyers; Thomas argued that the legal demand runs into the basic problem that a court order does not itself move tokens on-chain.

Operational security becomes ordinary security

The NFT discussion became a plain security lesson: valuable digital property should not sit on the same machine used for casual browsing. Thomas proposed the blunt solution of a separate laptop or air-gapped setup, while Dan compared careless NFT handling to walking around with a large amount of cash exposed.

I thought crypto was dead. How could there be new investors into the Fidelity fund?— Thomas Hunt
Bitcoin's the only investment material. The only thing in the world where when demand goes up, supply does not go up.— Thomas Hunt
I think we still haven't got over the the immediate effect of the the Terrell Luna sort of stable coin crash— Dan Eve
maybe maybe from the ball.— Thomas Hunt
it's almost guaranteed right the likelihood of the code changing and they're not being a harvining in 2024 is so insanely like in for almost infinite Tesla little small— Dan Eve
there's no one to bail you out— Thomas Hunt

Story of the Week

The halving returns as scheduled discipline

The dominant Bitcoin story was the return of the halving as the panel's long-term anchor after a week of market stress. Fidelity's rising investor count suggested that some capital was still entering quietly, but the real explanatory structure was supply: fewer coins, steady issuance rules, and miners continuing to secure the network despite lower prices. Dan accepted the $100,000 case after the next halving while resisting the before-halving timeline; Thomas took the more bullish side and framed the halving as an event the wider media had only begun to understand. The episode's tone was not triumphal, but it leaned on the old Bitcoin habit of treating the code schedule as more reliable than the market mood.

"it kind of feels desperate that we're down to like only the haveening can save us"— Thomas Hunt
The week ended with Bitcoin lower, the halving still on schedule, and the smallest Magic 8 Ball in Paris refusing to take the burden of prophecy.
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