TBG-290

Prices Fall - Kazakhstan Crackdown - Wonderful NFTs? - Pakistan Gains

January 07, 2022 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Was the Bitcoin drawdown a structural break, a macro scare, or just another accelerated Bitcoin correction while miners, NFTs, and states kept testing the edges of the network?

The panel mostly agreed that the price fall was painful but not decisive. Martin Wismer treated the Fed remarks and market correlation as a real shock while telling holders not to panic, while Thomas Hunt pushed the newer audience to remember that Bitcoin's violent upside has always come with violent downside. On Kazakhstan, Martin emphasized miner preparedness and backup connectivity, while Thomas framed the outage as another example of mining chasing cheap jurisdictions until local infrastructure and politics push back.

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The panel was uneasy about near-term price and infrastructure shocks, but still treated Bitcoin's monetary and network assumptions as intact.

What they were watching

The panel watched a sharp market selloff tied to Fed tightening fears, broader stock weakness, and Omicron anxiety, while rejecting the idea that a broken stock-to-flow chart meant Bitcoin itself had broken. Organic levels included the old move from 4,000 to 40,000, the 21 million cap, Kazakhstan's 18% share of global hashrate, and the idea that this correction might be compressed into weeks rather than years. Directionally, Thomas leaned higher into the Magic 8 Ball segment while Martin expected a little more weakness first.

Fed scare and Bitcoin's drawdown

The show opened with Bitcoin falling to its lowest levels in months after Federal Reserve remarks about earlier interest-rate hikes and asset sales. Martin saw the macro shock as real but not fatal, while Thomas warned newer Bitcoiners that the same asset that rises violently can also fall violently.

Stock-to-flow loses its spell

Thomas and Martin discussed the collapse of confidence around stock-to-flow and PlanB-style price certainty. They treated the model less as science than as a recurring Bitcoin authority ritual, useful until the dots stopped cooperating.

Build through the red candles

The panel moved from price panic to the older bear-market discipline of building. Martin defended the build meme as a way to refocus attention away from charts, while Thomas noted that serious projects cannot only build when price is down; they have to keep operating through both mania and boredom.

Kazakhstan hashrate outage

Kazakhstan's internet shutdown and unrest took an estimated 18% of global Bitcoin hashrate offline. Martin argued that miners should have had backup connectivity such as Blockstream Satellite, while Thomas framed the episode as another case of mining moving from one cheap jurisdiction to the next until politics or infrastructure intervene.

Kevin O'Leary and NFT liquidity

The NFT segment focused on Kevin O'Leary's claim that NFTs could become bigger than Bitcoin. Thomas granted that NFTs may reach many more ordinary users through images and collectibles, but doubted the claim of fluid markets for unique assets; Martin saw the real-world asset pitch as a recycled blockchain-for-everything story.

Venture capital versus organic Bitcoin companies

A discussion of Shark Tank and ChangeTip became a broader critique of venture-backed startup pressure. Martin and Thomas agreed that taking large early investment can force a company into growth targets that do not match the actual size or timing of the Bitcoin market.

Celebrity NFT buying and art-market theater

The MoonPay celebrity NFT story led to jokes and skepticism about concierge buying, money laundering, and the art world's old market games moving on-chain. Thomas saw the celebrity showroom dynamic as absurd but predictable, while Martin treated the whole thing as another reason to laugh at the machinery around expensive JPEGs.

Pakistan, remittances, and state Bitcoin temptation

The Pakistan story raised the possibility that cryptocurrency could boost national reserves, especially through citizens and the diaspora. Martin emphasized remittances, Lightning, and self-custody, while Thomas was more suspicious of governments measuring national Bitcoin wealth through what their citizens might hold.

"if you haven't sold by now, you're doomed. No, no, no, no, no, just kidding, just kidding."— Martin Wismer
"remember for Bitcoin to go up crazy like it does, it also has to go down crazy too."— Thomas Hunt
"this whole stock to flow thing is just moonmouth.win"— Martin Wismer
"18% of our candy bar rappers in Kazakhstan have been shut down"— Thomas Hunt
"it sounds like the whole bananas on the blockchain stories we had like during the iCO craze"— Martin Wismer
"don't look at your crypto portfolio for a while"— Thomas Hunt

Story of the Week

Bitcoin meets macro gravity and miner geography

The dominant story was not merely that Bitcoin went down, but that it went down at the same time the old explanatory machines looked tired. Fed tightening fears, stock correlation, and the failure of stock-to-flow confidence all arrived together, while Kazakhstan showed that mining decentralization could still concentrate in politically fragile places. The episode treated both price and hashrate as stress tests rather than terminal events. Thomas and Martin returned repeatedly to the same older institutional lesson: Bitcoin survives, but the people and businesses around it keep relearning the cost of leverage, infrastructure dependence, and narrative certainty.

"There's still 21 million Bitcoins, there's still easy to send over the internet, impossible to copy."— Thomas Hunt
The ball eventually gave an answer, the portfolio still had to be ignored, and the show closed with Bitcoin doing what it does best: making everyone wait.
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