TBG-272

Bitcoin Could Soar - NBA #1 - Mortgages - Coinbase Buys $500M

August 20, 2021 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Was Bitcoin entering another upward adoption phase, or was the market merely taking another speculative breath before the next institutional headline?

The panel partially agreed that Bitcoin's long-term direction remained upward, but they split on how seriously to take near-term targets and altcoin momentum. Stefan Kinsella treated $100,000 by the end of 2022 as a cautious possibility rooted in adoption waves, Dan Eve leaned into the stock-to-flow and 2017-cycle comparison, and Josh Shigala pushed harder on Ethereum's fee burn as genuine economic experimentation rather than mere altcoin noise.

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The panel's tone was broadly constructive: all three human panelists called Bitcoin higher for the next week, while the episode's stories kept returning to new ways institutions, athletes, and companies were trying to hold or receive Bitcoin.

What they were watching

The directional consensus was upward, with the panel treating the rebound from the prior lows as intact while still admitting the usual inability to predict the market cleanly. Organic price levels included Bitcoin still sitting below $50,000, Ethereum back above $3,000, Ethereum-to-$5,000 talk, Bitcoin-to-$100,000 by the end of 2022, and the memory of the 2017 move from $1,000 to nearly $20,000. The human panelists all chose higher for the next week; the Magic Bitcoin Eight Ball dissented.

The Market Reopens The Old Question

The show opened with the familiar round-number question: Bitcoin near $50,000, Ethereum over $3,000, and commentators again reaching for $100,000 targets. Stefan Kinsella framed the long run as obvious but the short run as unknowable, while Dan Eve read the cycle as reminiscent of 2017 and more willing to tolerate apparently unreasonable targets.

Ethereum's Fee Burn Gets Respect

Josh Shigala gave Ethereum's London upgrade more credit than the usual Bitcoin-only posture might suggest. He focused on the game-theoretic move of burning fees, describing it as a strange but serious step toward proof of stake and a live economic experiment rather than just another altcoin pump.

The Eight Ball Rejects The Panel

The human panel lined up on higher Bitcoin by the next week, with Stefan, Josh, and Dan all choosing higher. The Magic Bitcoin Eight Ball answered no, preserving the show's old machinery: the panel can see a pattern, but the toy oracle is still allowed to be rude.

Cade Cunningham Gets Paid In Bitcoin

The panel treated Cade Cunningham's BlockFi deal as a clean mainstream-adoption story, though Stefan noted the headline was somewhat clickbait because the Bitcoin payment was tied to BlockFi rather than the Pistons' salary structure. The discussion quickly moved from publicity to psychology: whether earning in Bitcoin changes an athlete's time preference and makes saving more performative than spending.

Frugality As Celebrity Culture

The NBA segment became a broader meditation on whether Bitcoin could turn conspicuous consumption into conspicuous saving. Josh argued Bitcoin makes people less willing to spend on disposable goods, Dan joked about an "MTV ledger," and Stefan tied the idea to sound money, lower time preference, and the cultural effects of fiat debasement.

Mortgage Payments Expose The Spending Problem

United Wholesale Mortgage's plan to accept Bitcoin led the panel to the same practical wall as older merchant-adoption stories: receiving Bitcoin is easier than building an economy where the receiver can keep using it. Dan welcomed the pressure on banks and remittances, Stefan suspected a backdoor treasury strategy, and Josh argued the better model would be over-collateralized lending rather than selling hard savings to pay a mortgage.

Coinbase Finally Copies The HODLers

Coinbase's plan to buy $500 million in crypto and invest 10% of future profits in digital assets drew a simple question from the panel: why had they not already done this? Stefan saw it as treasury strategy and PR, Josh pointed to regulatory and public-company constraints, and Dan called it strange that a company built on crypto had accumulated so much fiat first.

Regulation, Patents, And The Infrastructure Bill

The closing segment drifted from predictions into the U.S. infrastructure bill's expanded broker definition and the regulatory anxiety around it. Stefan expected the provision would probably pass, said it might later be challenged, and clarified that the Open Crypto Alliance remained focused mainly on patent threats rather than the full regulatory field.

In the long run, of course, yes. In the short run, who knows?— Stefan Kinsella
What I love most about this whole thing is that you can have economic experimentation without Google like.— Josh Shigala
Bitcoin is the leader like Cardano's just got on mini pump because they're putting in smart contracts— Dan Eve
you know, it does become a scenario of my precious— Dan Eve
They'll have my big coins when they pride out of my cold dead hands.— Stefan Kinsella
if they don't understand the culture then they should get fuck out of here— Josh Shigala

Story of the Week

Bitcoin Enters The Payroll And Balance Sheet

The dominant story was not a single company announcement but a pattern: Bitcoin appearing as salary, mortgage payment option, and corporate treasury asset in the same episode. Cade Cunningham's BlockFi bonus put Bitcoin in the celebrity-athlete channel, United Wholesale Mortgage offered the prospect of paying mortgages with crypto, and Coinbase announced a formal treasury allocation after years of sitting closest to the market. The panel treated these as adoption signals, but not as simple retail-payment victory laps; the recurring question was whether anyone receiving Bitcoin would actually want to spend it. The result was a practical, slightly weary adoption episode: everyone wants Bitcoin, but no one wants to part with it.

"I don't spend my big spend my Bitcoin"— Stefan Kinsella
The week ended with Bitcoin being offered to athletes, mortgage lenders, and Coinbase itself, while the panel remained most interested in why anyone would spend it.
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