TBG-211

Black Market High - Outbreak - Bull Market - BCH Fight

January 31, 2020 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Was the New York Times dark-market framing, coronavirus safe-haven theory, Tom Lee bull call, and Bitcoin Cash infighting a sign that Bitcoin was returning to the center of both media panic and market attention?

The panel rejected the idea that Bitcoin is only useful for dark markets, while admitting that censorship-resistant internet money is very good at serving prohibited markets. Josh Scigala and Juan Galt both argued that prohibition creates the demand and that Bitcoin merely reveals it, while Dan Eve emphasized harm reduction and the absurdity of blaming a neutral tool. On price, the panel was cautiously bullish but split on the next week, with Juan leaning toward $10,000, Dan calling for $8,800 to $8,500, and Josh expecting sideways-up despite warnings from Valtoro traders.

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The panel was optimistic about Bitcoin's bull-market setup, halving, infrastructure, and long-term usefulness, but skeptical of media narratives, coronavirus correlations, and the latest Bitcoin Cash governance fight.

What they were watching

The directional consensus was constructive but not unanimous, with Juan expecting a move closer to $10,000, Josh seeing sideways-up action, and Dan calling for a pullback toward the high $8,000s. The magic 8-ball refused to give a clean answer. Organic levels included Bitcoin above the 200-day moving average, Tom Lee's revived $25,000-style bullishness, and the Bitcoin Cash mining proposal asking for 12.5% of block rewards.

Dark Markets And Bitcoin

The opening issue covered the New York Times claim that Bitcoin's main flourishing use was illegal dark-net markets. Josh said Bitcoin is not only good for that, but it is very good at it because prohibition forces markets online and Bitcoin is native internet money. Juan and Dan both argued that drug markets existed before Bitcoin and will continue regardless of payment rail.

Feedback For Drug Dealers

Josh emphasized the strange harm-reduction feature of dark markets: buyers can leave reviews and test product quality in ways street markets cannot support. Dan pointed to drug-testing practices at festivals and the value of better information. Thomas tied the point back to Hunter S. Thompson's old sheriff-campaign idea of publicly punishing bad drug dealers.

Silk Road And Ross Ulbricht

The exit question asked whether destroying Silk Road and imprisoning Ross Ulbricht made Americans safer. Josh called that false and argued that Silk Road was tiny compared with later markets, while Juan said closing one market merely created many more. Thomas argued that Silk Road embarrassed the government by proving a large cannabis market could run with less violence than the street.

Coronavirus As Bitcoin Indicator

The coronavirus segment examined a Forbes-style theory that Bitcoin price could indicate how badly Chinese citizens wanted to flee or preserve capital. Josh said Bitcoin can act as a risk barometer because it is digital gold, though he thought the outbreak panic might be overblown. Juan checked local Bitcoin activity and did not see evidence of a China-specific Bitcoin surge.

Pandemic Panic And Market Narrative

The panel discussed the difference between the disease and the panic around it. Thomas emphasized basic public-health precautions like washing hands, avoiding sick people, and not touching one's face, while noting the cultural confusion around masks in Asia versus the West. Dan highlighted the worrying reported ratio of deaths to recoveries at that early moment, while the panel admitted none of them were virologists.

Tom Lee Calls Bull Again

The bull-market issue covered Tom Lee's return with a claim that Bitcoin had moved back above the 200-day moving average. Juan said there were real technical signs of a breakout and that bad mainstream coverage itself often accompanies renewed market interest. Dan pointed to the halving, infrastructure growth, and hash rate strength as reasons 2020 could be a good year.

Valtoro Traders Stay Cautious

Josh said Valtoro's gold traders had been selling gold into Bitcoin, but some still expected a possible move back toward $5,000 before a stronger rise. He personally remained a permabull but respected the caution of traders who had called prior highs well. The segment landed on a familiar split: the chart looked better, but Bitcoin can still punish certainty.

Bitcoin Cash Mining Tax

The Bitcoin Cash segment covered the proposed 12.5% mining reward diversion and Bitcoin.com mining pool's refusal to support it. Dan mocked the entire fork family as bottom-bitch politics, while Josh said treasury systems can work only when properly structured and agreed on in advance. Thomas framed the proposal as another fatal consequence of splitting from Bitcoin: once any faction can split, every faction eventually does.

Which Fake Bitcoin Is Worst

The exit question asked which Bitcoin copy was the worst. Dan said they were all bad and that every split leaves the original Bitcoin looking stronger. Josh said markets decide over time and that short-term pumps, especially in thin markets like BSV, do not prove value. Juan called the whole family an argument over which fake Bitcoin is the fakest.

No, but it's very good at it.— Josh Scigala
The bull market starts and the fake news begin— Juan Galt
It is a good mechanism to determine risk— Josh Scigala
there's a definite great point's been made by both Juan and crypto ruptured here.— Josh Scigala
There's only one top bitch and there's many bottom bitches— Dan Eve
I'm not really sure which one's worse, intentional scammery or drinking your own cool it.— Juan Galt

Story of the Week

Media Panic Returns With The Bull Market

The dominant story was Bitcoin's re-entry into mainstream media narratives, from the New York Times dark-market frame to Forbes-style coronavirus safe-haven speculation and Tom Lee's renewed bull-market call. Juan treated the bad press itself as a market signal: the bull market starts, fake news returns, and people remember Bitcoin exists. Josh and Dan focused on the reality underneath the headlines, arguing that Bitcoin works where censorship and prohibition create demand. The episode's dry landing was that Bitcoin does not need the media to understand it correctly; the media only needs to keep saying its name.

The bull market starts and the fake news begin— Juan Galt
The episode closed on Brexit day, with Bitcoin above the 200-day moving average, Bitch fighting over taxes, coronavirus charts spreading faster than certainty, and America testing whether a trial still requires witnesses.
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