TBG-158

Bitcoin Price Plunges - Jamie Dimon - #NO2X - WCN Goes Global

September 15, 2017 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Was China’s exchange crackdown a real threat to Bitcoin, or another regulatory panic that the market would absorb and reprice?

The panel broadly agreed that China’s crackdown was not the end of Bitcoin and that the market had already begun absorbing the shock. Jimmy Song and Jeffrey Jones both expected exchanges to return under licensing or for activity to move elsewhere, while Theo Goodman treated it as another entry in the long-running China-ban cycle. Tone Vays was the most direct in saying the low was likely in, while also arguing that anyone expecting governments to ignore Bitcoin had misunderstood the nature of the project.

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The panel saw the selloff as severe but temporary, with Bitcoin’s scarcity, global markets, and anti-government character intact.

What they were watching

Bitcoin opened around 3,630 after falling as low as the 2,900 area and rebounding sharply toward 3,700. Tone said the price was only below 3,000 for about 20 minutes and treated that as evidence of a likely bottom, with 3,400 as the new support area and a return toward 4,000 possible over the next week or two. The panel consensus was higher by the following week, with Theo calling 3,888 and the others expecting the China panic to fade.

China exchange crackdown

The opening issue covered BTCC’s preemptive shutdown and reports that Huobi and OKCoin would also face pressure. Jimmy said authoritarianism and Bitcoin do not mix well, but expected licensing, bribes, and eventual exchange re-openings rather than a permanent end.

Not the end of Bitcoin

Jeffrey argued that China no longer controlled Bitcoin volume the way it once did, with Korea, Japan, and the rest of the world already taking up slack. Theo called it another China-ban news event and noted that even bad headlines spread awareness of Bitcoin.

Tone’s bottom call

Tone analyzed the price drop as a technical reversal from just under 3,000. He argued that the short time spent below 3,000 made a dead-cat bounce less likely, while warning that a return to 3,000 would become dangerous.

Regulation versus libertarian purity

Tone defended China’s earlier actions against fake volume and ICOs, arguing that exchanges and scams had invited government attention. His position was not pro-state so much as practical: if Bitcoin threatens governments and banks, no one should be surprised when they respond.

Jamie Dimon attacks Bitcoin

The panel discussed Jamie Dimon calling Bitcoin a fraud, comparing it to tulips, and associating it with criminals. Jeffrey rejected the tulip analogy because Bitcoin had survived repeated crashes, while Theo noted that many of Dimon’s accusations merely described permissionless money and old scams in a new format.

Banking incumbents misread Bitcoin

Tone treated Dimon’s comments as unsurprising from a bank CEO and possible future public official defending the dollar system. Jimmy said Dimon joined a familiar list of prominent Bitcoin critics who relied on authority rather than understanding.

No 2X ambiguity

The Breaking Bitcoin mining panel introduced ambiguity around whether miners were bound to mine SegWit2X if the result was contentious. Theo thought the 2X fork looked increasingly unlikely, while Jimmy said one miner could still create a fork and that miners might use the lack of one-chain certainty as an excuse to back out.

Corebleed disclosure and WCN abroad

The panel discussed JJ’s Corebleed disclosure and whether vulnerabilities should be revealed before patches are widely deployed. Jeffrey and Theo saw it as a difficult norms problem, while Tone sided with Peter Todd and argued that serious vulnerabilities should be paired with solutions before public presentation; the final segment shifted to WCN’s Europe tour, Zurich, Essen, Prague, and the growing global Bitcoin audience.

Oh, it's definitely not the end of Bitcoin.— Jimmy Song
This is just another day in Bitcoin.— Jeffrey Jones
Bitcoin remains this force against the government— Tone Vays
Bitcoin is a honey badger and doesn't freaking care with Jamie diamond things.— Jeffrey Jones
It would only take one miner to cause a hard fork.— Jimmy Song
The panic is already in.— Tone Vays

Story of the Week

China panic becomes the Friday dip and rip

The dominant story was the Chinese exchange crackdown, beginning with BTCC’s planned shutdown and fears that Huobi and OKCoin would follow. What looked like a major regulatory break quickly became a market test: Bitcoin fell hard, then rebounded in a matter of hours, turning the story from death notice to liquidity event. The panel framed the move as China trying to control ICOs, exchanges, and capital flows rather than eliminating Bitcoin itself. The week’s lesson was that Bitcoin had become global enough for one jurisdiction to hurt the price without owning the outcome.

The price of Bitcoin is 36-30 after a rebound from 29-72.— Thomas Hunt
China shook the exchanges, Jamie Dimon shook the press cycle, and Bitcoin spent Friday demonstrating that a panic can still have a bid.
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