TBG-145

UASF, Putin, Ethereum, Singapore and the Bitcoin Bubble

June 09, 2017 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Would BIP 148 force miners to activate SegWit, or would the user-activated soft fork expose that Bitcoin’s governance by incentives was still too uncertain to trust?

The panel agreed that BIP 148 had become the central question, but split sharply on likelihood and timing. Gabriel D. Vaan believed miners would likely bend because the downside risk of resisting users was too high, while Jimmy Song warned that current UASF hash rate was tiny and that a viable chain required much more support. Tone Vays remained publicly pro-UASF, but emphasized that he would reassess weekly and wanted exchanges to clearly state what they would do before August 1.

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The panel was bullish on Bitcoin’s price and long-term role, but treated the UASF, exchange readiness, and miner response as serious unresolved risks.

What they were watching

The directional consensus was higher, with Tone expecting Bitcoin above $3,000 this time next week and Jimmy noting that price had recently tracked his Twitter follower count near 2,968. Gabriel expected a flatter move around $2,800 after the late-spring rise, while Tone argued that uncertainty around August 1 could actually reduce exchange supply and drive the price sharply upward. The panel saw Bitcoin’s rally as intact, but increasingly tied to UASF game theory and exchange withdrawal behavior.

BIP 148 And Miner Incentives

The opening issue covered UASF momentum as August 1 approached. Gabriel D. Vaan predicted miners would likely activate SegWit because the cost of resisting users could be high, especially if meaningful hash power emerged behind BIP 148. Jimmy Song pushed back with current numbers, saying 0.18% apparent support would mean roughly four days to find a block.

Hash Rate Thresholds

Jimmy argued that BIP 148 needed a much larger mining base to become viable and said he would feel comfortable only around 75% support. Tone was surprised by that threshold, having expected something closer to 25%, and continued to support UASF as a necessary pressure mechanism. The segment exposed the difference between UASF as political threat and UASF as live consensus machinery.

Miners, ASICBoost, And Trust

Gabriel framed Bitmain as a bad actor that brought BIP 148 on itself by blocking SegWit while allegedly protecting an advantage. Jimmy was less convinced that ASICBoost fully explained miner behavior and suggested control over development or hard-fork precedent might also matter. Tone rejected the two-megabyte-block explanation as unconvincing because miners were not even consistently filling existing blocks.

AMD And Mining Hardware

The second issue covered AMD’s stock rising after cryptocurrency demand boosted graphics-card sales. Jimmy Song explained that true ASIC manufacturing requires major capital, fab relationships, and design expertise, but that Bitmain’s profits would inevitably attract larger firms. Gabriel and Tone both expected major chipmakers such as Intel, AMD, or Samsung to enter the mining-hardware field as prices and profits continued rising.

Mainstream Hardware Discovers Crypto

The panel discussed whether cryptocurrency mining had broken into mainstream hardware markets. Gabriel argued that AMD and Intel were late, partly because the market looked risky and small until recently. Thomas suggested that chipmakers might have invested earlier in existing mining companies, while Jimmy noted that ventures like 21.co had already explored embedded mining hardware.

Ethereum Meets Putin

The third issue covered Vitalik Buterin meeting Vladimir Putin and Singapore testing a digital currency on a private Ethereum-like network. Tone found both stories confusing and warned that Russia or Singapore might only want the code, not the public Ethereum token. Jimmy saw a more geopolitical angle: governments and central banks want financial sovereignty and may use blockchain-style systems for tracking, issuance, and control.

Central Bank Crypto Futures

The panel considered whether governments could issue their own digital currencies. Jimmy warned that state-controlled digital money could preserve some technical features of Bitcoin while turning them toward surveillance and policy control. Gabriel looked forward to those currencies competing against Bitcoin in open markets, where he expected centralized designs to fare poorly.

Bitcoin Bubble Metrics

The fourth issue covered MarketWatch attempting to value Bitcoin using a network-value-to-transaction-volume style metric. Gabriel and Thomas criticized the approach as too payment-focused and blind to store-of-value demand. Tone argued that Bitcoin was not in a bubble and speculated that users withdrawing coins from exchanges before August 1 could reduce sell-side supply and push prices even higher.

I think it's pretty unlikely that these threats will be carried out— Gabriel D. Vaan
0.18% is also really, really easy to a client— Jimmy Song
I still think the user activated software is starting to gain some momentum.— Tone Vays
there's gotta be an I mean I respect Jimmy's idea— Tone Vays
The supply of suckers is inexhaustible in this world.— Jimmy Song
I am as bullish right now on the price of Bitcoin as I've been at any point this year— Tone Vays

Story of the Week

UASF Turns Into Operational Reality

The dominant story was BIP 148 moving from memes and hats into hash-rate math, miner incentives, exchange policy, and personal preparation. Gabriel argued that miners would likely signal because resisting carried large game-theoretic risks, while Jimmy warned that 0.18% apparent hash-rate support was nowhere near enough for a viable chain. Tone had already moved from rhetoric to hardware, ordering wallets and a miner while preparing to pressure exchanges for clear August 1 plans. The episode marks the moment when UASF became less a political symbol and more a logistical deadline.

I still think the user activated software is starting to gain some momentum.— Tone Vays
The hats kept spinning, the miners kept quiet, the chipmakers finally noticed, and Bitcoin learned that even astrology sounds rational during a fork countdown.
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