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Coinbase Lawsuit - Open Bazaar $3M - War on Cash - Venezuela

December 17, 2016 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Were Coinbase, OpenBazaar, cash bans, and Steemit showing Bitcoin’s future as regulated infrastructure, decentralized commerce, or a flight from collapsing monetary control?

The panel agreed that Coinbase’s legal exposure was the predictable cost of building a regulated bridge between Bitcoin and legacy finance. Theo Goodman and Gabriel Divine saw Coinbase’s problems as part of the burden of compliance, while Tone Vays argued that the cryptocurrency lawsuit could expose deeper failures in Coinbase’s model. On OpenBazaar, Gabriel was unusually optimistic about its open-source platform strategy, while Tone remained neutral to skeptical about whether it could gain enough users before Bitcoin itself became mainstream.

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The panel was optimistic about Bitcoin’s role in cash crises, decentralized markets, and censorship-resistant exchange, but pessimistic about centralized Bitcoin companies, state currency control, and tokenized business models.

What they were watching

The directional consensus was that Bitcoin’s monetary argument was strengthening as governments attacked cash and users sought alternatives to centralized exchanges. No sustained Bitcoin price levels were discussed. Venezuela, Australia, India, and Europe were treated as monetary pressure points that could move demand toward Bitcoin over time.

Coinbase Lawsuits Begin

The panel opened with Coinbase facing a customer suit against the IRS summons and a more serious cryptocurrency-related lawsuit. Theo argued that Coinbase’s compliance-heavy model made these problems unsurprising, while Gabriel warned investors that companies bridging Bitcoin and legacy finance sit in a legally precarious position.

Cryptocurrency Haunts Coinbase

The cryptocurrency allegation centered on Coinbase allegedly processing more than 8 million dollars in stolen funds. Tone found the irony irresistible, arguing that Coinbase’s move toward becoming an altcoin exchange made the cryptocurrency lawsuit feel like a warning from the future.

OpenBazaar Raises New Funding

OpenBazaar’s 3 million dollar round was treated as a rare case of a crypto project that had not immediately tokenized itself. Gabriel praised its hybrid open-source company model and saw version two with Tor support as potentially transformative, while Tone questioned whether there was enough current demand to sustain the project.

The Tokenization Temptation

The panel used OpenBazaar to contrast real open-source infrastructure with the ICO model. Tone warned that forcing users to buy an OpenBazaar token would be like making Amazon customers buy Amazon stock before shopping, while Thomas noted that venture funding might spare the project from that path.

Australia Joins The War On Cash

Australia’s discussion of removing the 100 dollar note led the panel back to the global cash-ban theme. Tone argued governments want cash gone for monetary control, bank-run prevention, and tax surveillance, while Theo said every new cash-ban headline was bullish for Bitcoin.

Venezuela Cancels The 100 Bolivar

Venezuela’s rapid withdrawal of the 100 bolivar note was treated as both a monetary crisis and a reporting problem. Tone emphasized that the government claimed it would replace old notes with larger denominations, while Gabriel and Theo focused on the speed of the move and the growing incentive for Bitcoin adoption.

Bitcoin Miners And Police Pressure

Theo noted reports that Venezuelan Bitcoin miners were facing scrutiny and potential shakedowns from authorities. He argued that corrupt police wanting Bitcoin could itself be a bullish signal, because it showed Bitcoin becoming recognized as the thing of value inside a collapsing currency system.

Steemit Debate Spills Into Whale Pool

Tone’s story of the week was an impromptu Whale Pool debate with Steemit’s Ned and Dan. He described the exchange as chaotic and unprepared, but used it to reiterate his view that Steemit’s changing economics and claimed blockchain made it impossible to take seriously.

I think coin base will go out of business in 2021.— Gabriel Divine
OB1 you're our only hope.— Theo Goodman
If you can't pay for a congressman you're not big enough— Thomas Hunt
this is what you get with that.— Theo Goodman
the drama will subside and coin base will endure yes or no.— Thomas Hunt
I just don't think the world really needs them yet— Tone Vays

Story of the Week

Coinbase Becomes The Regulated Honeypot

The dominant story was Coinbase facing both IRS pressure and lawsuits tied to customer privacy and alleged processing of stolen cryptocurrency funds. The panel treated Coinbase as the unavoidable case study in what happens when a Bitcoin company builds itself as a compliant financial bridge. Theo saw the cryptocurrency case as especially damning because Coinbase allegedly asked questions but failed to act meaningfully. Tone pushed the irony hardest: cryptocurrency’s collapse might now threaten the very company drifting toward becoming a more polished version of the same regulated exchange model.

I love the idea of cryptocurrency from the grave taking down coin base— Tone Vays
The episode left Coinbase in court, OpenBazaar in beta, cash in retreat, and Steemit still trying to explain what kind of chain it was.
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