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President-Elect Donald Trump and Bitcoin

November 12, 2016 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Did Trump’s election make Bitcoin more valuable as a hedge against uncertainty, or merely expose how much political, media, and financial interpretation now surrounds it?

The panel agreed that Trump’s election created uncertainty, and that uncertainty was generally constructive for Bitcoin, at least as a risk-off asset. Gabriel Devon argued that both Clinton and Trump would have been good for Bitcoin in different ways because Bitcoin is anti-fragile against government action, while Ian D. Martino focused on deregulation, banking rules, and the danger of poorly aimed internet or financial legislation. Tone Vays was more conflicted, saying Trump’s tax and regulatory agenda might actually remove some of Bitcoin’s gray-market advantages even as political instability still supported the case for Bitcoin.

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The panel saw Bitcoin benefiting from political uncertainty and mistrust of institutions, but also warned that deregulation, legal markets, and Trump’s unknown policy instincts could cut both ways.

What they were watching

The panel watched Bitcoin react to the election like a safe-haven asset, rising to around 730 during election night before settling near the 715 range. The move was treated as a short-term fear trade rather than a full revaluation, with gold and traditional markets also reacting sharply before reversing. Tone argued the panic would be temporary and that Trump could ultimately be good for stock markets, while Bitcoin’s benefits depended on how much uncertainty and regulation remained.

Trump Wins And Bitcoin Jumps

The episode opened with Bitcoin rising during election night as Trump’s victory became clear. Thomas framed the move through safe-haven demand, while Gabriel argued that the deeper force was uncertainty around a president with no conventional political record.

Media, Prediction Markets, And Shock

Gabriel was struck that mainstream media narratives had convinced so many people Trump could not win, including traders and prediction markets. The panel treated the result as another blow to institutional media credibility and another example of new media outperforming old assumptions.

Trump Deregulation And Bitcoin

Ian argued that Trump’s anti-regulation stance could matter for Bitcoin if it affected Dodd-Frank, banking rules, leverage trading, or on-ramps. Tone pushed back, saying looser regulation might actually weaken some of Bitcoin’s use case by making fiat rails and gray-market activity easier.

Privacy, Security, And Internet Policy

Ian raised the danger that Trump’s security-first instincts and weak technical understanding could lead to bad Bitcoin or internet policy. The panel discussed whether a government fear of terrorist financing, online privacy, or digital currency could create harmful legislation even if Bitcoin itself survived.

Snowden, Leaks, And Deep State

The panel moved from Trump to Snowden, WikiLeaks, 9/11, and the broader age of leaks. Gabriel argued that leaks would continue exposing hidden power structures, while Tone thought Trump was more likely to pursue Clinton Foundation and Justice Department issues than reopen older national-security scandals.

Cabinet Picks And Institutional Reality

The discussion turned to whether Trump would actually govern as an outsider. Ian warned that early transition names like Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani suggested a familiar Republican establishment, while Tone identified the Supreme Court, Federal Reserve chair, Justice Department, and economic adviser as the appointments that would reveal Trump’s direction.

Trump, Hate, And Public Reaction

Thomas raised concern that Trump’s victory might embolden harassment of immigrants, Muslims, women, and LGBT people. Blake and Ian urged calm, argument, and nonviolence, while the panel debated whether symbolic gestures like safety pins were meaningful support or empty social signaling.

China, Russia, And The New Order

The closing political discussion asked whether China or Russia would benefit from the election. Blake and Gabriel both saw broader shifts in global power, technology, and state legitimacy, while Ian warned that China had its own structural problems and might not find global leadership any easier than the United States did.

Bitcoin, gold and other safe haven currencies were boosted by demand after the Trump victory.— Thomas Hunt
I don't believe it's possible for really any government action to be bad for Bitcoin.— Gabriel Devon
Trump is good for markets. Trump is amazing for markets.— Tone Vays
If we want to become more than just this little niche thing that computer geeks use, then we need some on ramps for the people to be able to get their money into Bitcoin.— Ian D. Martino
The paranoid survive.— Gabriel Devon
People think Trump presidency is the weirdest thing that's going to happen in their lifetime are sadly mistaken.— Ian D. Martino

Story of the Week

Trump Election Becomes Bitcoin Stress Test

The dominant story was Donald Trump’s election and what it meant for Bitcoin, markets, regulation, and political trust. The panel treated the election less as partisan outcome than institutional rupture: the media had failed, prediction markets had misread the result, and traders briefly moved into Bitcoin and gold before the panic faded. Gabriel emphasized uncertainty and anti-fragility, Ian examined possible regulatory consequences, and Tone questioned whether Trump’s deregulatory agenda might reduce some of Bitcoin’s practical use cases. Bitcoin’s role in the episode was as a measuring instrument for distrust in the political and financial order.

I don't believe it's possible for really any government action to be bad for Bitcoin.— Gabriel Devon
The episode closed with Bitcoin as hedge, Trump as uncertainty engine, the media as casualty, and the chat already several conspiracies ahead.
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