TBG-090

More Power than Denmark, Standards, $5.5M Gold Tokens & $200 undervalued

April 01, 2016 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Was Bitcoin’s proof-of-work, fixed supply, and censorship resistance a wasteful historical footnote or the backbone of a monetary system central banks could not control?

The panel treated the Denmark electricity story and the Bank of Canada paper with sustained sarcasm, using Ethereum and central-bank language as the foil. Tone Vays pushed back on the idea that Bitcoin’s energy use was waste, arguing that proof of work was necessary for security, while Gabriel Divay and Theo Goodman performed the opposite view as an extended proof-of-stake parody. On the Bitcoin standard question, Tone was serious that Bitcoin could anchor finance only if a credit system developed without government borrowing, while the rest of the panel kept the institutional critique in absurdist register.

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The panel was confident that Bitcoin’s design mattered, but the episode’s tone showed unease about central-bank analysis, Ethereum marketing, privacy erosion, and the difficulty of explaining Bitcoin’s security model in public.

What they were watching

The panel watched Bitcoin around the $406 level, with Tone making the lone directional call that new highs were coming the next week and Thomas choosing the current price as his prediction. Other organic levels came from the week’s institutions and jokes: 14 gigawatts of projected electricity use, a $5.5 million DigixDAO crowd sale, a report saying Bitcoin was undervalued by $200, and Gabriel joking that Bitcoin would trade at $10.50 under ether.

Bitcoin And Danish Electricity

The show opened with a researcher’s claim that Bitcoin could require more power than Denmark by 2020. Gabriel and Theo answered in deadpan proof-of-stake parody, while Tone argued seriously that proof of work was security, not accidental waste.

Proof Of Waste Versus Proof Of Work

Theo extended the joke by renaming proof of work as proof of waste and proposing Ethereum-style incentives for nuclear waste. Thomas closed the segment by saying new technology would be developed because that is what new technology does.

Bank Of Canada Bitcoin Standard

The panel discussed a Bank of Canada paper claiming a Bitcoin monetary standard would fail because central banks would lose control. Tone noted the contradiction that the same fixed supply was described as both a benefit and a problem.

Credit, Government, And Monetary Control

Tone argued that a Bitcoin economy would still need credit and fractional reserve lending, but that government borrowing was the real distortion. Thomas summarized the political implication as a need for separation of money and state.

DigixDAO Gold Tokens

The DigixDAO segment mocked the idea of gold-backed Ethereum tokens as a pile of fashionable buzzwords. Tone treated it as centralized from multiple angles: trust in the gold custodian, dependence on Ethereum, and the old problem of gold claims exceeding gold reserves.

Bitcoin Undervalued Report

The panel reviewed Needham’s report claiming Bitcoin was undervalued by $200. Gabriel mocked the methodology and the recommendation to buy GBTC, while Tone said the report understood some of Bitcoin but avoided saying plainly what Bitcoin was actually useful for.

Price Predictions

The forced prediction segment stayed mostly comic. Gabriel said $10.50, Tone predicted a strong move upward, Theo diverted to Litecoin being undervalued, and Thomas chose the current price of $406.

Privacy, Reddit, And Warrant Canaries

Tone’s story of the week was Reddit removing language interpreted as a warrant canary from its terms. Thomas added that Reddit users should be careful linking accounts, because connecting Reddit to Twitter or Facebook could end their pseudonymity.

we know for a long time that Bitcoin is unsustainable.— Tone Vays
Proof of waste is doomed.— Theo Goodman
New technology will be developed. That's why they call it new technology.— Thomas Hunt
you need fractional reserve lending.— Tone Vays
It's hard to say where to begin.— Tone Vays
Shit, don't touch my Bitcoins.— Theo Goodman

Story of the Week

Proof Of Work On Trial Again

The dominant story was Bitcoin’s proof-of-work model being attacked from two establishment angles: environmental cost and monetary governance. The Denmark electricity article framed mining as waste, while the Bank of Canada paper framed fixed supply as a defect because it removed central-bank discretion. The panel answered by turning Ethereum proof-of-stake rhetoric into parody, but Tone used the moment to restate the serious case: Bitcoin’s energy use is the cost of security, and its monetary limit is precisely what makes it politically threatening. DigixDAO and the investment-bank valuation report then showed the parallel world of tokenized claims and financial wrappers trying to repackage the same old trust problem.

I think it's great that all this power is actually being used for Bitcoin because you have no idea what kind of innovation is going to come with this power.— Tone Vays
The episode ended with proof of work still consuming electricity, proof of stake still consuming punchlines, and Berkeley waiting with pizza and a hackathon.
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