TBG-042

Bit License Extension? - Retailers love Bitcoin - Wikipedia $140K

August 08, 2014 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Would New York’s BitLicense process meaningfully listen to Bitcoiners, or had Bitcoin already begun routing around regulators through merchants, nonprofits, tipping tools, and jurisdictional exit?

The panel broadly agreed that New York was unlikely to change course in any meaningful way. Megan Lords framed petitions and comment periods as government begging with little leverage behind it, while Christoph Atlas treated the process as theater by unelected officials who had already asserted sweeping authority. On adoption, the panel was more hopeful: retailers, Wikipedia, ChangeTip, and nonprofit use showed Bitcoin succeeding precisely where no permission was needed.

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The panel was pessimistic about New York regulation but optimistic that Bitcoin adoption, nonprofit funding, tipping, and jurisdictional arbitrage would continue outside the regulated perimeter.

What they were watching

The episode did not center on Bitcoin price, though Thomas noted a long period around the 640 range and a drop toward the mid-500s before asking what it would take to break 660. The real watch was institutional: whether New York would extend the BitLicense comment period, whether companies would block New York users, and whether public Bitcoin campaigns like Wikipedia and ChangeTip could make adoption visible without regulatory approval.

BitLicense delay request

The Bitcoin Foundation asked Ben Lawsky for another 45 days and suggested using GitHub to organize comments. Megan Lords saw little reason for regulators to comply, while Christoph Atlas called the effort a delay tactic with no clear path to success.

Regulation as performance

Christoph argued that public comment periods gave only the veneer of listening. Thomas compared New York’s faith in banks to old empires expecting the old order to return, while Megan said the regulations reflected desperation from institutions feeling control slip away.

Bitcoin not bombs bit licenses

The panel contrasted New York’s BitLicense with Bitcoin Not Bombs’ mock intergalactic bit licenses. The joke worked because it exposed the absurdity of trying to license math, software, and borderless transactions from one state office.

Retailers like no chargebacks

The merchant story was simple: Bitcoin transactions settle without chargebacks. Christoph and Megan both emphasized that for digital goods, books, codes, and e-commerce, this was cleaner than credit cards and newly attractive with zero-fee processing options.

Wikipedia proves donation demand

Wikipedia’s $140,000 in Bitcoin donations in one week confirmed an old panel argument that nonprofits were leaving money on the table. Megan saw the result as proof that listeners and donors reward organizations willing to adopt the technology.

Africa and infrastructure limits

Christoph complicated the charity narrative by discussing Richard Boase’s report from Africa. He argued that tablets, data access, and wallet infrastructure remained major barriers, and that undermining oppressive regimes might matter more than simply dropping devices into poor regions.

ChangeTip reaches YouTube

ChangeTip’s move into YouTube led Thomas and the panel into the Jenna Marbles campaign. Christoph imagined an automatic browser-based tipping wallet that would distribute a monthly budget across watched creators, while Megan saw tipping as a way to support smaller producers without constant fundraising appeals.

Jurisdictional arbitrage and exit

The questions segment turned to whether people and companies would leave New York or the United States over regulation. Christoph said wealthy Bitcoiners and businesses already choose jurisdictions strategically, while Thomas warned that New York risked becoming an experiment in cutting itself off from Bitcoin.

They don't have to listen to us, honestly.— Megan Lords
They've literally asserted that kind of authority.— Christoph Atlas
They're intergalactic.— Thomas Hunt
Of course they love it.— Megan Lords
The more the merrier is far as I'm concerned.— Megan Lords
they're basically trying to illegalize math.— Christoph Atlas

Story of the Week

New York asks Bitcoin to wait

The dominant story was New York’s attempt to slow, define, and contain Bitcoin through the BitLicense process. The Bitcoin Foundation asked for more time and a more organized public-comment system, but the panel saw little reason to believe regulators needed or wanted Bitcoiners’ consent. That skepticism shaped the rest of the episode: merchant adoption, nonprofit donations, tipping campaigns, and relocation all appeared as ways to route around the state rather than persuade it. New York became the test case for what happens when a financial center tries to cut itself off from the future.

They don't have to listen to us, honestly.— Megan Lords
The episode left New York counting comment days, merchants counting fewer chargebacks, Wikipedia counting donations, and Bitcoiners counting exits.
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