TBG-039

NY BitLicense Rules - Bitcoin and Business - Vericoin Hacked - Local

July 18, 2014 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Would New York’s BitLicense, mainstream business adoption, exchange failures, and proposed road-show activism split Bitcoin into regulated rails and grassroots escape routes?

The panel largely rejected New York’s BitLicense as hostile to Bitcoin’s core design, with Chris Ellis comparing it to DRM, Megan Lord calling it another unenforceable scare tactic, and Christoph Atlas treating it as a delaying maneuver for the legacy financial system. On business adoption, the group saw CheapAir and Dell as significant, though CheapAir’s travel use case drew more immediate enthusiasm than Dell’s hardware acceptance. On VeriCoin, the panel split between practical sympathy for reversing a massive hack and deeper concern that rolling back a blockchain undermined the point of having one.

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The panel saw mainstream adoption accelerating through CheapAir, Dell, conferences, meetups, and road-show ideas, but treated regulation, exchange custody, proof-of-stake fragility, and blessed-state Bitcoin as serious risks.

What they were watching

The episode was not led by Bitcoin price levels. The watched indicators were institutional and technical: New York’s proposed BitLicense, CheapAir’s $1.5 million in Bitcoin travel sales, Dell accepting Bitcoin, MintPal losing more than 30% of available VeriCoin, and the possibility of a regulated “govcoin” split from freer Bitcoin use.

BitLicense as Bitcoin DRM

New York’s proposed Bitcoin license drew broad opposition from the panel. Chris Ellis compared it to DRM because it takes a working technology and deliberately breaks user freedom, while Megan Lord said the rules would not prevent the harms they claimed to address.

Regulation and legacy finance

Christoph Atlas treated the BitLicense as part of a wider effort to preserve the banking system, tax collection, and financial surveillance. He argued that the market had already produced better security tools than regulators described, and that licensing would mainly delay the shift into a crypto economy.

Other states and loopholes

The exit question asked whether other states would copy New York. Megan expected many states to wait rather than follow New York’s heavy-handed model, while Christoph predicted that all states would eventually become adversarial once Bitcoin seriously threatened taxation and borrowing.

CheapAir, Dell, and e-commerce

The choose-your-own-story segment highlighted CheapAir passing $1.5 million in Bitcoin travel sales and Dell accepting Bitcoin. Megan and Christoph favored the CheapAir story because Bitcoin travelers already needed flights and hotels, while Thomas noted that Dell was still a major direct-merchant adoption step.

Travel as Bitcoin infrastructure

CheapAir’s success made travel feel like one of Bitcoin’s clearest practical markets. Megan imagined private pilots and Uber-like alternatives that could route around the TSA, while Christoph said direct Bitcoin payments were increasingly convenient for people who already held coins.

VeriCoin rollback and MintPal

MintPal’s VeriCoin hack raised the question of whether a blockchain should be rolled back to save an exchange. Christoph saw the rollback as not necessarily proving centralization, but still troubling; Chris Ellis was more severe, arguing that reversibility betrayed the point of a blockchain.

Proof of stake and exchange custody

The VeriCoin segment became a discussion of proof-of-stake risks and hot-wallet custody. Christoph and Chris both noted that proof-of-stake coins face hard security tradeoffs, especially when exchanges hold large quantities of coins that should not be concentrated in one place.

Bitcoin road show proposal

The closing discussion turned toward a proposed open-source Bitcoin tour or road show. Chris Ellis imagined a global, semi-randomized governance structure using Bitcoin tools, while Thomas brought it back to practical outreach: meetups, local businesses, handouts, interviews, and town-by-town adoption.

you take a technology and then you deliberately break it— Chris Ellis
I don't think the regulation can stifle the technology anyway.— Megan Lord
do whatever you want and let the market decide.— Christoph Atlas
It's a self-contradicting statement— Christoph Atlas
this is a matter of you know we need to decentralize the exchanges— Megan Lord
the whole point of it is that it's irreversible— Chris Ellis

Story of the Week

BitLicense draws the regulatory battle line

The dominant story was New York’s proposed BitLicense because it forced the panel to ask whether regulated Bitcoin would still be Bitcoin. Chris Ellis framed the rules as a deliberate breaking of the technology, like DRM placed on music. Megan Lord emphasized that regulations would not stop people from losing money or laundering money, and Christoph Atlas argued that the rules served banks and tax collection more than users. The panel’s deeper read was that New York was not ending Bitcoin freedom everywhere, but it was making the coming split visible.

Just like DRM makes it impossible. Just plain, plain, painful to lend additional books music.— Chris Ellis
The episode left New York writing licenses, CheapAir selling flights, Dell opening checkout, VeriCoin rewriting history, and the grassroots plotting to take Bitcoin town by town.
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