TBG-016

The Bitcoin Group #16 (Live) - Apple Bans Bitcoin - Bitcoin 7 11 Mexico - Mt Gox - Russia Bitcoin

December 20, 2021 · YouTube · All episodes
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Where the panel landed

Did Apple’s wallet ban, 7-Eleven Mexico, Mt. Gox withdrawal failures, Russia headlines, and local-bitcoins arrests show Bitcoin being blocked, or merely teach users where the centralized weak points still were?

The panel mostly agreed that Apple’s removal of the final Bitcoin wallet was bad for onboarding but not fatal to Bitcoin. Davi Barker, Chris J., Megan Lords, and Will Pangman all saw Apple’s move as shortsighted, while Andreas Antonopoulos framed it as a walled-garden company trying to stand against an entire cryptocurrency technology wave. On Mt. Gox, the panel agreed the failure damaged confidence and trapped users, but Andreas and Chris stressed that it proved the weakness of centralized exchanges rather than Bitcoin itself.

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The panel was confident that Bitcoin would route around Apple, Russia, Mt. Gox, and enforcement pressure, but the week’s stories were mostly about damaged access points rather than clean adoption.

What they were watching

The panel discussed Mt. Gox withdrawal problems causing a 20% drop before recovery, with Andreas noting Bitcoin went below 700 and became, for him, a Friday sale. Organic figures also included 7-Eleven Mexico acceptance through Padmobile, local Bitcoin entrapment around $30,000 trades, and repeated discussion of the $10,000 reporting threshold.

Apple Bans The Last Wallet

The show opened with Apple removing the final Bitcoin wallet from the App Store. Davi saw the ban as inconvenient but easy to route around through jailbreaking, while Chris compared Apple’s position to Internet Explorer-style decline. Megan rated the damage around a three, but warned that it would make business onboarding harder for people already comfortable with Apple products.

HTML5 And The Browser Workaround

Andreas disclosed his conflict as blockchain.info’s chief security officer and described Apple’s position as unsustainable. He argued that HTML5 wallets would soon work across mobile browsers, removing Apple’s ability to control wallet access through the App Store. The panel treated Apple’s gatekeeping as temporary friction rather than a final barrier.

7-Eleven Mexico And Remittances

The 7-Eleven Mexico story moved the discussion from app stores to brick-and-mortar use. Chris emphasized that wallet services like Padmobile could let merchants avoid direct volatility exposure, while Andreas saw Mexico as especially important for U.S.-to-Mexico remittances. Davi argued that successful Mexican adoption could pressure nearby U.S. border markets and improve the immigration debate by increasing prosperity.

Local Stores Over Big Chains

The exit question asked which corporation should try Bitcoin next. Chris wanted a multinational that could move wealth from the West into developing markets, Will chose Netflix, and Davi continued his in-game currency theme. Andreas and Megan both stressed local stores and smaller franchises as more important than waiting for big corporate headquarters.

Mt. Gox Withdrawal Trouble

Mt. Gox’s Bitcoin withdrawal problems produced the sharpest institutional critique of the episode. Megan said one exchange having so much market impact was unfortunate, while Will hoped Gox could land without causing a larger crash. Andreas called it another goxing caused by incompetence, bad architecture, and bad communications, while Chris condemned the exchange’s customer handling and centralized fragility.

Centralized Exchanges As The Weak Spot

The Mt. Gox segment became a broader indictment of centralized exchanges. Andreas argued that Gox proved the same point Bitcoin had made about centralized finance: custodial, regulated, fraud-prone, and incompetently managed services were the failure point. Davi noted that Mt. Gox could harm Bitcoin’s reputation only among people who confused an exchange account with a Bitcoin account.

Russia Ban Headlines

The Russia segment challenged the headline that Bitcoin had been banned. Andreas warned that many country-ban headlines blur scope, jurisdiction, and fact, while Chris pointed to the original Russian statement as more advisory than outright ban. Davi and Megan both argued that prohibition or vague enforcement would not stop Bitcoin and might simply create fear, examples, and underground usage.

LocalBitcoins And Entrapment

The breaking local-bitcoins story involved Florida users charged after a Secret Service operation around large trades. Andreas said a $30,000 local Bitcoin trade was foolish and that money-service charges might stick, but he expected the money-laundering headline to be weaker because no underlying crime had occurred. The panel saw the case as a warning about large in-person trades, but not as the end of peer-to-peer exchange.

"This is Internet Explorer all over again."— Chris J.
"Apple's position is there abiding the technology wave of cryptocurrencies."— Andreas Antonopoulos
"Bitcoiners. So it's a really bad decision, but I think it might kind of get in the way a little bit of trying to get businesses on board"— Megan Lords
"Thank you, gox, for launching this cryptocurrency at a time when there were no other exchanges. It's now time to fade off into the sunset."— Andreas Antonopoulos
"Never attribute to incompetence what you can attribute to Malice."— Davi Barker
"Prohibition doesn't work."— Megan Lords

Story of the Week

Apple Chooses The Walled Garden

The dominant story was Apple banning the final Bitcoin wallet from the App Store. The panel treated the move as a practical blow to mainstream onboarding, because giving a new user a wallet and a few dollars of Bitcoin had become the simplest evangelism tool. But the deeper conclusion was that Apple had misread the scale of the problem: this was not one wallet, or even one currency, but a wave of cryptocurrencies, HTML5 wallets, SMS access, jailbreak stores, and browser-based workarounds. Apple could ban an app, but it could not ban the category without making its own platform look incomplete.

"Apple's position is there abiding the technology wave of cryptocurrencies."— Andreas Antonopoulos
The sixteenth issue left Apple guarding a smaller garden, Gox blocking its own exits, and Bitcoin still finding the browser, the bodega, and the back channel.
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