The Bitcoin Group, the American original. For over the last 10 seconds, the sharpest Satoshi's, the best pitcoins, the hardest crypto currency talk. We'd like to welcome our panelists. And Eve, the crypto raptor. Hello there Bitcoin. Josh Gala from Voltoro. Good morning, on good Appent. Ben Arck from Ellen Bits. Shema hello. Juan Gold from onegall.com. Audi. And I'm Thomas Hunt from the World Crypto Network. Moving on to issue one, issue one, Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey to talk about Bitcoin. Two of the leaders of the business world are getting together to have all kinds of fun jacking off about Bitcoin. Yes, Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey are discussing Bitcoin at an event called the B word. And it's going to take place July 21st. Certainly Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey will fix Bitcoin solving all of the problems being that they just joined Bitcoin about six months ago. Dan Eve, the crypto raptor. What can we look forward to when Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey jack off about Bitcoin? Well, I think I think it's going to be an interesting little debate. Hopefully, it's going to come off positively and not going to be Elon kind of, you know, shitting on the green energy thing and just all moning about that. But I've been thinking about that anyway. Although it's obviously bad in the interim, it kind of is good that everyone's switching. You know, there is a kind of a public facing switch towards the green energy, the green energy and Freudian slip. But I think it's good that we're actually heading towards a greener Bitcoin money future with the volcanoes and our Salvador's going down pretty well. But the fact is that Elon needs to be kind of probably educated a little bit more on Bitcoin specifically. Jack seems like a good person to do it. He's obviously, you know, pop square crypto and very big on Bitcoin. He's commented on multiple reports that talked about the actual green side of Bitcoin mining that's not talked about and it's kind of brushed under the carpet by the, you know, the more scary headlines of Bitcoin uses more than 500 L Salvador's or something like that. So the fact is that I think it's good for Bitcoin. It's not about hiding this information. It's about bringing it to the table and having a debate, having a talk. And educating people that aren't currently up to speed on how Bitcoin mining is actually quite green. 500 is a lot of L Salvador's. Ben Arck. Yeah, I was surprised how it informed Elon Musk was not that I think that Bitcoin is specifically green doesn't have a heavy carbon footprint, doesn't have a heavy carbon footprint. But I thought he is something he would have known about earlier. Man, I'm having researched Bitcoin and clearly been interested in Bitcoin by his tweets and also having worked in a very similar industry and sector very early on with PayPal. I think I like Jack Dorsey a lot. I've got a lot of respect for him and he's got the lightning development fund which is doing a lot of good work. He keeps a lot of good people close at hand like people like Mike Corrello. So if there's anyone who can talk some sense into Elon Musk and maybe just ask him to not tweet out so sporadically and let the technology develop without throwing in opinions and pumping the price and dumping the price then it would be Jack Dorsey. He seems like a very level-headed dude. I like what he's doing, what he could potentially do with the blue sky stuff. And by the way, he's shown some interest in our stars. There's a bit of self-interest there. I'll be very keen on the star and the star protocol. Do the little interest in that. So I like Jack Dorsey. I think he's a good technologist in the article. He has said that if it weren't for Twitter and Square then he'd be working on Bitcoin full time and I think that's probably true. And this The B Word events, online event looks absolutely fantastic. He's got John Newbury, Adam Back, Jack Dorsey. And they've kind of done the opposite to the BTC21 where the BTC21 just had absolutely everybody as speakers. They've got a very select few speakers and they all seem like real professionals. You aren't going to say something, you can embarrassing and they're not going to be hot heads when the line lights on the very level-headed. To me it feels like the next iteration of a Bitcoin event where you have these real high profile people discussing Bitcoin and Bitcoin actually being used in the wild in places like our Salvador and actually having an impact on the world in a very rational and sensible way. And I think that's why Jack Dorsey has been a big part of that. So, yeah, looking forward to the B Word online event. I'm not sure how us plebs can get involved or I imagine it will be video. There's things we can watch. But yeah, really looking forward to that. And also just looking forward to Jack Dorsey having a nice gentle word with Elon asking him to stop being so sporadic. Only the guy who runs the short messaging startup named after the sound of bird makes can talk sense into the other guy who's trying to go to Mars. Josh Shagalla, the Elon Twitter, Elon and Jack off. What do you think? Well, the jack off is going to be a huge masturbate to discuss what they can do about Bitcoin. You like that. You see what I did there? Look, it's, yeah, I mean, good on them. Rich people, powerful people are going to be powerful and powerful together. I don't really care what they do. To be honest, you know, I think it's all a very much of very self-important nonsense. They're not important to this protocol. The end of the day, what's important are developers developing cool shit like Ben with L.A.M.B.E.T.s. And that's what really makes a difference is people working on the protocol, people making stuff, people building stuff and people huddling and so on and so forth. All this other stuff is just noise. It's just powerful people going, oh, let's get together and discuss how we can make it better. Get over yourselves, guys. You're not that important. You make cool cars. You have a good short messaging system to bad it. Yeah. Well, on golf, we've got 27 live viewers. Everyone should push the thumbs up. But now say hello in the chat. We've seen more people will join the chat and more people will watch the show. But who's going to win? Juan, will it be Elon and Dozecoin or Jack Dorsey and Bitcoin when they have the first international jack off? Yeah. Well, I mean, dogs definitely would have an advantage in the jack off scenario, but sounds like Doge is licking his wounds right now. So maybe he won't be out for the sparring game. I mean, my first reaction, my god reaction to it is like, I don't know about this thing, this conversation. The only scenario where I like this conversation is if Jack can demonstrate that he has that volcano energy and he completely demolishes Elon Musk. That would be glorious. That would erase him up in respect as far as I'm concerned. So the volcano blows the load. That's right. That's the bait. Wow, this topic is going somewhere. It's going to the dogs. Juan, do you have more on this? Yeah, I mean, that would be the only scenario where I would be very satisfied with it. Every other scenario would be just like another drag of awkward PR for Bitcoin. But I mean, I do it. It sounds interesting and interesting event and I look forward to seeing a different way of demonstrating who we are to the world because Bitcoin 2020, I had a great time. I enjoyed the bombasticness of it, but it was also like, it was so mainstream and it was so like, it was so big, so like burning man as so like, so it was so American, like huge conference, like most ridiculousness that I think we can probably present a better vibe to the world. Well, I for one, I'm glad that these startup founders are here to tell us what to do with Bitcoin. I'm glad that Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank is here to tell us how to mine Bitcoin sustainably and that that's the most important thing about Bitcoin and the way that everyone else is picking out their own little number one feature and telling us that's the most important thing about Bitcoin that, you know, it works for this country, it works for that country, it works for this company or this website. It's just great. I think that it's great that the celebrities are here for too long Bitcoiners have had the trouble to think on their own and you had to actually do your own research. And now these celebrities are here and you just follow your favorite celebrity. I like Tesla. I like Elon Musk. Therefore, I like Dogecoin. So this is going to work out really well in the end, not financial advice, but everyone should just follow their favorite celebrity, whatever Paris Hilton wants to buy. That's what you should buy, especially if it's Dogecoin. It's not too late. Don't miss the boat. But we're running out of time moving on to the exit question, exit question. Who would win in a fight? Dogecoin's mascot, the Shiba Inu or Bitcoin's plucky mascot, the Alaska Husky known as Sats, the dog Sats. Crypto Raptor, we're going to start off with you. It's a fight of cuteness, cuteness to the death. Who's cuter? Sats the Husky or Doge the Dogecoin? Oh, that's hot. That's hot cool. That's like that's a very good job. Gone. Because I'm not too familiar with Sats the Husky, but I think Doge is pretty up there with cuteness. But I think just because this is the Bitcoin group show, I'm going to say that I imagine that Sats the Husky is cuter. We've got some pictures of Sats the Husky right here. Some Huskies have blue eyes. Of course, the competitor would be the well-known Doge. Sats go to Josh Tagala, Sats the Husky or Doge the Doge. Man, I've got to say it all depends on what season it is. Huskies start to look pretty messed up in the heat of the summer when it's 40 degrees. Someone shaved me and in that state, the Doge marketer, but in the winter, hot damn Sats looks cute. Sats go to Ben Ark, Sats the Husky or Doge the Doge choose your dog. I'm not sure it'd be too much of a fight to be honest. I imagine that the Doge dog would just be stiff in the ass of Sats the Husky in kind of an annoying way and following it around the garden. I don't think it'd be much of a fight. It does seem like Sats clearly has the size advantage if you were to pick this as a fight. Look at some of the Huskies can grow quite large, like a large amount of Satoshi. Some of the Huskies can be quite small, like a puppy, like a small amount of Satoshi. It's interesting to see Sats represented in this way as a dog, really a revolutionary idea similar to the idea that Dogecoin had won, Galt. We're going to complete the round here, Sats or Doge. I hate to be the guy that says that Doge is probably going to win because obviously this is a big point show. I'm supposed to say that Sats is the better one. But yeah, it's like Mike Tyson versus that new guy that maybe has a chance but probably not. But I love Huskies. They're really cute. I have a Husky. I do like to root for an underdog. I think it's for us, I guess. Look at that. Homecourt advantage even has a Husky talk about biased. Sats wins by a landslide. Sats is the best dog. You heard it here first. Moving on to issue two. Issue two, Bitcoin will grind lower to about $15,000 before bottoming. Investors shouldn't rush in now says Guggenheim, Scott Manier, who suddenly knows everything about Bitcoin. Josh Shagalla, is this the bottom of Bitcoin? Will we see $15,000? Will we go lower? I know everything's possible. I don't believe all of $15,000. It's pretty low. Never say never. If it does, I'll be selling some gold and buy some Bitcoin back. Yeah, that's for sure. I saw a great post the other day on Twitter. It said, if you still have cash to buy, you're not modeling correctly. It's always been a contradiction to me about when I'm supposed to model and when I'm supposed to buy the dip and which time it is. I always seem backwards, but it does seem to be what everyone else is doing. No, it's very tricky. I think that the huddle meme is good at all, but a lot of people need to buy things, they need to pay for stuff. But also, when it's at ridiculous levels, when there's the full on hockey stick, you're just going to be a fool to not take some profits because you know it's going to go down. We run Boltoa, so we put it in allocated bullion sitting there and then we sell the bullion back for crypto when it's dipping. One golf, the price of Bitcoin goes up and down, but once again, we can appeal to authority. The smart people in finance are here to tell us about the value of Bitcoin. Are they correct? Is it as simple as that? We're going to 15k. One gold. Unmute yourself. Almost every technical analyst right now is looking at Bitcoin with traditional technical analysis tools like what you would use to analyze commodities like gold or silver and silver stocks where the CEO, with the stock, the CEO can create more shares at the top and dump against the bull market and dampen the bull market with commodities, the mining industry says, wow, the price is triple what it was six months ago and we've ramped that production so they start selling against the bull market and the dampens the production. With Bitcoin, you can't do that. There's no extra supply and it's a very different class of assets than anything else. People traders are used to looking at. That is one of the main reasons I'm skeptical that we're going to go to 14k or that quickly, but if there was a low, it probably would be 14k unless we blow past probably 100,000. Right now, I'm still bullish. I'm actually bullish right now because everybody's bearish. I think we're definitely in a cool off period. As far as what the mainstream investors are saying, they're positioning, hoping to be right and become famous for six months. We've got 40 live viewers. Be sure to push the like button. It's free. Right down below. You don't even have to be live. Dan Eave, the crypto raptor, the price of Bitcoin goes up and down. Dot, dot, dot. Yeah, I'm definitely with one there about the TAs. It works for traditional markets, but as you mentioned about the supply, it's static, obviously, apart from the halvings. It's a very community-based, it's very community driven. It's driven by people's crazy, insatiable appetite for making money and thinking, oh, this Bitcoin is going to get it or thinking that Bitcoin's dying and dumping it. Also, it's just a simple, weak consent Bitcoin going mental. I know that there's synergies in the real world when it was Instagram that dropped when what are the Kardashians said that she wouldn't use it anymore or something like that. I know that there was a huge stock wipe, so it can happen, but it's just not as crazy as the Bitcoin world. It's a completely different kettle of fish. Although they're saying it could drop completely at the same time and looping back to the previous question about this July debate. Something that would turn it completely is if by July, magically, especially with the miners being decommissioned all over the shop in China, that at this debate, for example, Jack Dorsey gives Elon enough information to say that there's, he believes, there's 51%, there's been a 51% green attack on mining and it's now green more green than not. That could swing things completely. Although it's bad, the negative impact of Tesla dropping Bitcoin after the big height, I think that the massive boost that Bitcoin's going to get once Tesla's back in will be quite significant. But the actual, going back to the hash rate at the moment, the hash rate has actually dropped. It was pretty crazy. I remember peak. It was like 170X or something. Right now, it's actually 105. So it's actually dropped a significant amount from all time high and the price has followed that. That's one thing that I don't know if TA accounts for is external variables like the price following the hash rate. But yeah, I'd like to see it go down to 15. He's a market biser because I'd sell everything. But at the same time, I don't think it's going to happen. I think it's sort of wavering around the 30K marker. Things will be a bit scary, a bit sideways. There'll be a few days where there's like a 10 to 15% drop. But I just can't believe that this is the end of the ball run. And like that specific article was saying that hold on for another four years. It just seems like it was too short this ball run. So I'm pumped for some more Bitcoin price action. And I hope that everyone's lovely laser eyes take us to 100K. I was just like Andreas. I always used to say that Bitcoin could never go down to zero because I would buy them all at a dollar. Let's go to Ben Ark. It seems to have a lot of screens. Screens ready. Are you ready? Yeah, you can hear me. So there's some huge shorts being opened up a bit for next. It's gone up a thousand percent against Bitcoin. I'm of the opinion that it actually wants to go down to about 10K. But those bottom feeders will, all those bottom sellers will keep it around 15K. It may dip a little bit under 15K and then go back up. And that will be the bottom. So I actually think this is quite good advice by this guy from traditional finance. And it seems to me like the logical drop. Well, there's not enough momentum behind Bitcoin's price at the moment for us to get out of the little gully we're in. And they just feel we're going to drop down further. And it could hit 10K. But I think it's going to the bottom feeders. The people buying up the bottom wall will make it bounce much quicker than that. But as it hits about probably about 15K. So yeah, I'm of the opinion that this guy's, let me see if I can go back to normal. There we are. By the way, I'm testing out my new streamer copilot extension on our bits. So it's maybe it's what might be a little bit like you or whatever. But yeah, so there's a lot of shorts. There's a lot of people seem to want Bitcoin's price to go lower. Maybe they're trying to push the price down. Don't want to be conspiratorial. And then buy a dip. But there's just a lot of pressure pushing it down. So yeah, I'm looking at 15K. We're only one group away from saying, let's wreck the short sellers. And it happens all the time. And if those short sellers get wrecked, they burn their fingers and they're not doing it again for a while. So yeah, it's having such high short positions. People can see that as also a bit of a squeeze opportunity. Yeah. Prediction, the Bitcoin donation button will really appear on these shows. Josh Shagalla, the price goes up and down. Yeah, the price does go up and down. Yeah, up. One goal. Your thoughts on Bitcoin 15K? I mean, again, I think it's probably the lowest it could go. I don't think from my analysis, like Bitcoin has never made a new bull market and then gone and broken its previous all time high. The bottom from 20K was 4,000. The bottom for from 1800 was about $250, which was, you know, like, so that was, that was like closest you ever got to the previous all time high. I mean, you counted 250 pump before that. Otherwise, you'd be like $36, like years before that. So to break into 15K would be a little crazy. But maybe not so much because the 20K was clearly a blow off top, like ridiculousness. And 14K, we have support there clearly. But I think it's going to get massively overrun. I think people are going to foam a big time at 20,000. I could see like a $24,000 Bitcoin just because everybody's going to be front running it. If it does crash like that, but right now, right now the funding rate is negative, which is traditional, like which in throughout all of Bitcoin's history, as far as we have funding rate, a negative funding rate is bullish. So short term bullish. So I think we're going to just stain this range for a while. There's a lot of regulation coming in. We might have another dip, but like there's a lot of regulation coming in and that regulatory uncertainty. According to Wyoming cool Bitcoin politicians lady, it's actually keeping the institutions from jumping in like they'd like to. They're kind of like waiting and watching. There's definitely a coordinated effort to like take Bitcoin down a notch. And that was seen in this sort of storm of thought that was initiated by Elon Musk, who took all the heat by the way, but it was like. Fud for like two week straight, like world class eight year foot for two week straight. So I think, I think, you know, I think we're going to see how that plays out. I don't I agree that I don't know that we have enough momentum and of retail momentum to do a blow off the upper to make a new time high soon, but I think, I think, I think, I could see the, I was just ranging in this zone for a couple of years, honestly, we'll see what happens. Now forced prediction Dan Eve crypto raptor the price of Bitcoin this time next week higher or lower. I'm going to go to press and do lower, but before I finish, I just got my I did see something quite funny, which was that, which was that XRP shields were like saying, we're saying, oh, the, you know, the Bitcoin price is hanging weight, waiting for the for the SEC to rule on XRP is if that's going to like impact on. Yeah, but it may have a little little tinky maybe, but I don't think the Bitcoin relies on XRP's prices, that's for sure. Josh, the goal everyone's waiting on XRP. No, no way. Yeah, the higher or lower. It'll be slightly higher next week. One gold higher or lower. I think higher. Fucking the trend, then arc higher or lower. Loh man, like so much we're in a different realm when you have, you know, one of the richest people on the planet pumping that a bit coin and then dumping on it like, yeah, the price. I was interested to hear one that there's resistance strong resistance of 14k. I had a no coin a friend who's like doing a bit of trading and regular normal stocks and things and he was asking me about Bitcoin. And I said, you know, I don't know where to buy. I should always buy Bitcoin, of course, a little bit, but not too much. And I did say to him that you look if it goes anywhere near 15k or below 15k just buy the fuck out of it because it will then go up quite significantly. If you can't trust Elon Musk, who can you trust? And now the price of Bitcoin this time next week will the price of Bitcoin be higher? Yeah, very doubtful, very doubtful. Oh, pessimistic pessimistic Bitcoin ball moving on to the next issue. Check out the WCN clips channel on Google at WCN clips. We've got 48 subscribers and you could join them. Check out exciting videos like clips from this show such as who will adopt Bitcoin next? See why Bitcoin's flaws are not real and will there be a Bitcoin alternative? These videos and more on WCN clips. Issue 3, L Salvador announces national Bitcoin wallet plans to distribute $117 million in Bitcoin to citizens. L Salvador's dictator, I'm sorry, president announced that the country's official Bitcoin wallet Chivo would be launched in September and give $30 in Bitcoin to all prisoners, citizens in L Salvador. Let's go to Ben Ark, L Salvador is continuing to move forward on their plans to make Bitcoin legal tender. And now they've got a national Bitcoin wallet and they're giving everybody $30. What could go wrong? Yeah, I mean, it's not ideal that this leader is so sort of anti-democratic, but what I will say is that someone tipped me nice. What I will say is that he has, but Kelly has access to a whole range of consultants and this is going to happen forever because obviously more and more countries will adopt Bitcoin. But currently has the ear and access to all these incredible consultants and all these people who want this experiment to go very, very well. And he can just, you know, he has everyone on the end of a phone group, Adam back, he wants to call him, you know, Jack Mal is boom, he's calling. Jack Dorsey, probably he could just call him, you know, groggy Maxwell, whoever he wants to get in contact with, he can get in contact with and have free advice and then free help to implement solutions. And that's quite exciting. So I root, I'm with the rest of the Bitcoin community, I really want this experiment to work. There are lots of concerns around his, you know, authoritarian slide from democracy and is, you know, the way he devolved the lot of the judges who were against him. And he's removing all these barriers to his, you know, authoritarian power. So that puts in a position where he could just make decisions without any backlash or any more questioning him. So for if he's making the right decisions and, you know, that's a good thing, but quite often it goes wrong and they end these vanguards, they end up making wrong decisions. Why will I do really like I'm going to show my screen again. How do I share this? Right, so I'm doing that thing when I'm getting confused share where you here we go. Can we see this? Can you see this? Alright, so here's a nice little video. So this is this is gets me excited. Let's just have a watch. The Imperial Senate has been dissolved. Where are we watching, Ben? Can you hear it? No, we cannot hear it. Oh, that's a shame. Sorry, I thought you could hear it. So basically this guy is paying, he's got an electric bill come through and he's just paying instantly. He's just paying instantly through his Bitcoin wallet directly, you know, without any friction and then he knows it's as instant acceptable. He's got proof that he's made the payment. And what I like about this is a shame you can't hear it's a really nice little video made by a stop sharing, because that's a bit of confusing, made by a vice. And I just love that, you know, that nixaybo concept of social scalability. Now this country which doesn't have this crazy payments infrastructure in place is a sort of central American country has got that infrastructure. It can very easily using Bitcoin. It can build the infrastructure and it. I would love that I would love to get a bill through the door and there's a QR code and boom, I've paid it there and then I don't have to go onto my banking app and fiddle around and I could just pay it and I could do it in a way which is, you know, privacy centric. So if that happens in our Salvador, that would be really exciting to see more and more examples of Bitcoin being used in such an incredible way. And Becale does have access to all these great minds and I, you know, I hope that he will just make the most of that because up, you know, for other countries that won't be necessarily so because obviously they're the first ones to truly try to, you know, adopt and incorporate Bitcoin. So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm excited about the Salvador thing. A couple of people have reached out, you know, asking about and bits that's exciting to. In the last show I complained about there's not enough sort of emphasis on some of the free and open source solutions out there. I know this new wallet is kind of been made by the government. And they say it is interoperable with other Bitcoin wallets and I hope that is also the case. But yeah, that social scalability, you know, to pay your bills just by scanning the QR code and boom, pay it. I love that. I think it's great. Well, on golf, the government is building you a Bitcoin wallet. You can fit all the Bitcoin you want in a suitcase. What do you think about that? You need a big suitcase, man. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I have to say I haven't done big due diligence on this president. I can't say that I'm a big sort of very educated person in terms of El Salvadorian politics. But I mean, El Salvador was just totally screwed last I checked before this whole thing. And, and he seems to have major Congress approval, you know, he seems to be, you know, very popular president, which is not necessarily a good thing. You know, Hitler was very popular. But he seems to be very popular, right? And, and, and it does seem like El Salvador has a history of imprisoning its corrupt precedence, you know. So I'm not concerned. He seems like he seems like a good dude. I mean, maybe I'm falling for his charisma, but I tend to have pretty decent character judgment, I think. So I like the guy. I think it's make I think what he's doing makes sense to all the libertarians and anarchists concerned that this is sort of Bitcoin socialism. I think if you if you listen to the podcast with, that he just went on with this guy, the British guy who's never can never remember. I think he makes a pretty good case as to why it's actually fairly open, right? Like, like, first of all, there's a monster in front of the house that you're trying to get into called the government. And the monsters like you are not allowed to come in here. And then the monster, the next house is like, hey, you can come in. It's all good. I'll just get out of the way. Like that doesn't seem like status into me. Like he's not he's not inputting the capital gain stacks is saying, hey, you want to be a currency, you can be a currency over here and not. And I'll just get out of your ways. Like that seems to me like the opposite of government obstruction and government enforcement. And you know, the merchants are protected. They don't have to implement it. If they don't have the technology people. I mean, I think there's a good case there. And I'm I'm staying neutral on that on that situation. I think I think it's fine. And I forget what the other question was. The imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the empire has dissolved that council permanently. The last remnants of the old Republic have been swept away. Josh Segala. But I think it's a really fascinating time. You know, I think it's come early. So, but it's also a little because last last bull run it was all the, or the normies, the normal people, the mums and pups and the stuff. This time it was the Michael sailors and the Elon Musk's and the corporations coming in. And next time is the is the countries. I think it's also all can be, you know, the first step. It would be very, very interesting to see. What I'm finding really fascinating is, where's the money coming from to buy the $50 worth of Bitcoin, or 30 that everyone gets? Are they printing that out of nowhere and buying real rare assets with it? Where is it coming from? You know, so, and so, that's a conundrum. It's an interesting thing. Who, who, who is selling their Bitcoin for a fake fraudulent, fiat paper nonsense? If their previous currency was the US dollar and they're using the dollar in tangent, they can print any money. So presumably they're selling the treasures of El Salvador. They're taking the people's money and using it to buy Bitcoin to then put into these wallets that the government is going to design. And everyone can trust that this will just go out smoothly. Yeah. And the other thing is I really think that they said last show as well. It's so important that they integrate lighting network into this. It just wants scale up to the level of country that's needed on show. And it'll just annoy everyone. So the wallet is being developed by lightning strike. So it's basically going to be like a what it's probably a light like a white labeled version of lightning strike. And I mean, okay, so the government is taking the taxes that they took from the people converting it to Bitcoin and giving it back to people and from a Bitcoin. What's the problem there? That seems like a good thing. Yeah, sure. I mean, I'm not sure if the of the ins and outs. I'm just interested in how they're doing it. So if that's how they're doing it, that's interesting. I've also been told that the regional governors now have direct control over their territories fear will keep the local systems in line fear of this battle station. Dan Eve, the crypto raptor your thoughts on this amazing $30 giveaway in El Salvador. Well, I for one think that it's the coolest biggest air drop in history, like a country wide air drop and not like that 2017. Bigger than Aurora coin bigger than Marza coin bigger than the Native Americans bigger than Iceland. I think it's called it's a big country. Oh, Jesus coin. Very big. So, you know, the by ends pointed out that it's the store like the tweet account that is the first country to air drop Bitcoin. So I think that's cool where they get the money from I'm not sure about. The fact that the fact that they're saying one is, you know, it's going to be exempt from capital gains because this currency is a good thing rather that you know, so hopefully other countries actually follows follow suit and say it's a currency. Remember, they're also saying you don't have to accept Bitcoin if you don't have the infrastructure, you don't have to you can just accept. You know, USD and then people can pay in the Bitcoin and convert to USD. So I think it's just nice that they're giving people the option, you know, they could have been forced it or something crazy like that. But obviously that's, you know, and pretty unfeasible and unworkable. But when you when you think about like that, why can't normal other countries other countries doing and say right, well, it's, you know, if it is accepted, but you don't have to. I think it's a good step forward. Someone mentioned in the chat, well, and the Paraguay is following suit next to apparently they sort of hit those hints that Paraguay will be doing it. There's I think 1500 Bitcoin 80ms that that are going into into El Salvador as well. So they're really rolling out the infrastructure fast and I think it was the Bitcoin Bitcoin Beach wallet, you know, the numbers growing there very very rapidly. And the fact that they go in for the, you know, the volcano powered mining. You know, I usually dictate as a bad right, but this is kind of this sounds like a good kind of semi dictatorship right, you know, if they all came like this, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind it so much. And if they are market buying by 160 million dollars of 180 million dollars of Bitcoin for this 6 million El Salvadorians, then I say, well, I say yes to El Financial Salvation Adore. They always said that the service at sheep marketplace was great right up until the last weekend when they exit scammed. So let's all again remember how small a chip you could fit your Bitcoin in if you were sneaking out of El Salvador. So I think that's the biggest dictators have had to leave behind palaces full of gold and antiques quality fine sports cars and other things that are so difficult to fit into your pocket or even a brain wallet. So let's be very careful with this Bitcoin that we're sending and giving out. I wanted to bounce on something Josh said earlier, it's just too early and it's romantic right and we're all romantic here we want Bitcoin to work for El Salvador want to lift them up and to save this country that's in trouble otherwise. But we can't just forget all the trouble otherwise that's still there that's always going to exist so we need solutions for that trouble as well as financial solutions and Bitcoin doesn't care it's stoic it's mute it doesn't care about any of this it doesn't care i'm also creeped out by the government wallets even if like one says it's a white label version of strike it's still the idea that you should trust the government the government can. It can choose your wallet the government can install this on every user in the country and there won't be a back door so I just want to bring that up as like a pesky cipher punk bit corner who won't give up that they tried rid of and just try to put some of those values out there as we all. We all look at the toe of dictatorship Josh again more on this go ahead you know the trouble with the good thing with dictators is the trains run on time you know that's great everyone can celebrate the trains run on time yeah the trains also head towards concentration caps so you know it's you have the good in the bad. And that's the fact that the case of incentives so it is worrying like some the anti democratic stuff of the Kelly however the fact he's got all these experts you know on call who can help build the El Salvador infrastructure and this new industry which is now going to flood into the country and try and help them. I think the incentives there to actually on on his side and everyone anyone who could be corrupt the incentive is there to make this thing work if maybe if it doesn't work then yeah they'll put all the coins on the hardware wallet and and fully the country but they're incentivized to to make it work so hopefully it will and just you know good luck to everybody and I hope it works and yeah I hope this guy's got the country's best intentions are hard I'm sure he has and I'm sure he has. Yeah. And democracy is a complicated idea it's often messy and to paraphrase West Wing it requires active citizenship but it's a good thing we don't teach civics anymore so no one knows about that and you don't know how to recognize propaganda so you're endlessly unarmed in a battle of ideas but we can't talk about that now that's an idea of another show even sorry if you were if you were if you were about actor by introducing Bitcoin to his side. And then we'll get to the other country and then getting everyone familiar with Bitcoin then he's teaching them a tool which is then going to disempower government anyway further down the line so yeah. The enemy of my enemy is my friend the friend of my enemy is my enemy so forth and so so on it's a it's an interesting thing because I agree then they're bringing the Bitcoin it's their best chance but really what they might need I don't know organized farming organized food I don't know what the exact issues are this country I'm not going to try to solve them right here but. I'm certain that it's more of a like a road problem a transportation problem a fuel infrastructure problem rather than a financial problem using paper dollars is probably pretty satisfying yes I mean a massive part of the GDP is remittance isn't and and getting money into the country from the US in which they get charged huge percentage so actually there is this huge technical problem to be solved by which is solved by using Bitcoin so. So are they going to do it exit question will they be successful in adopting remittances as Ben says the number one way people sending money home i think 50% of their economy might have been that and they are taxed heavily one gold you're you're in a foreign country you send money home sometimes will they be successful will El Salvador use Bitcoin for remittances yeah I mean I think it looks good to me I think it's really expensive. I think it's really good to send money to other countries and even with Bitcoin is expensive because the cash market will take 7% no matter what and the 7% is not actually on the exchange rate of Bitcoin is in the exchange rate of dollars for the dollar to shed coin to Latin American has a 7% markup on it 10% markup so that's where you're paying it and so I think with the El Salvador system yeah it could it could completely eat up that that friction and and no I'm excited it looks good to me it looks like a small enough country and he seems like smart enough sort of guy that he can probably pull it off so I'm you know call me crazy but I'm going to up the mist here. 10 Eve remittances for El Salvador or for all the way i'm i'm i'm i think it's i think it's a great move and i think it's going to be the start of the domino effect the fact is that as well i'm saying that the the remittances you know remittances cost a huge especially you know in in the UK I know that there's a lot of remittance I think the two biggest areas from a previous action crypto companies to work for it was trying to attack. The two are in India and Nigeria and and the fees associated are just insane and so tackling that problem alone as has got some really good positives and and you know sending money internationally that is almost instant and without any intermediaries much better than go through multiple hoops and banks and verification and and all that stuff so yeah I say who ready for remittance. Josh segala the specific use case of remittance but if we're really talking about remittance why do all the cash registers in the country have to be changed and it has to be accepted as legal tender practically a national currency. Yeah remittance has always been a good thing for Bitcoin it's always been used it's it's it's the you know it's the OG of use cases and and yeah I think it could definitely work yeah the the biggest problem is if they're not using lightning then you know remittance remittance and remittance and I can't even talk it's late at night here folks. They're usually a little bit smaller because they're sort of part of a paycheck they're not so you know huge network fees are going to really be very good for that but if it's still cheaper than money gram or some of these these type of old school remittance companies then people will do it yeah. Ben Ark the lightning network sending money home for L salvador. Yeah it's fantastic if you imagine someone working in the US and sending somebody back to our Salvador it can you know they have instant access they can send it to their lightning wallet the their family member in our Salvador have instant access to those funds and then can spend those funds so in an emergency or some emergency use case it's great companies like western Union currently overcharge huge percentage. For those services and it's really quite criminal and then also you know one of the reasons in which they're in the US in the first place is because of the US US the head had had on me and the control in which the US has had over those countries in the first place and Bitcoin. It dissolves that and in a way where you know our Salvador can't be sanctioned because it's not a national currency which they're using it's not someone else is currency like the yen or I don't know. It's something which is apolitical it's a medium of exchange for say political so absolutely very exciting so you've got social scalability you've got cheap remittances which can be oh well yeah nice cute riftences which can be used instantly by family or family member. And it escapes us the hadjony hadjony me I can't speak either remittances a Germany. So yeah super good and that just hope it works. We've still got 55 live viewers it's your chance to hit the thumbs up button down below subscribe while you're there and it's interesting to think how in the past it was companies like United fruit or Coca Cola praying on Latin America praying on Central America. And now the enemy seems to be companies like Western Union over charging people to send money home not adapting to better networks Western Union could already be offering their service at nothing if they had switched to the Bitcoin or the lightning network years ago. Adapting to new technologies instead they waited and continued to charge probably knowing that this is coming coming just like the cigarette companies before them but wanting to just get as many customers as they can before they run out of time moving on to issue for issue for John McAfee dead of a parent suicide in Spanish jail after court approves his extra addition to United States on tax charge. Ascentric anti virus company founder John McAfee was found dead of suspected suicide in a jail in Barcelona Spain McAfee died shortly after Spain's national court approved his extra addition to United States to face federal criminal tax evasion charges. John McAfee was 75 years of age his widow is seeking a thorough investigation into John McAfee's death saying that she spoke to him before his death they had a positive conversation no discussion of suicide and that they had a plan to fight the charges in the United States. One galt John McAfee anti virus founder Bitcoin or altcoin or promoted coin of the day and also threatened to cut off his own dick and eat it if the price of Bitcoin did not rise above 200 K by I want to say 2020 something like that a colorful character star of the documentary documentary Gringo on Netflix. Just interesting a right till the end one galt your thoughts on John McAfee and his passing. It's really sad if he's actually dead apparently he faked his death once already so this would be a that would be an incredible stunt to pull it off again in this situation. It sounds like John McAfee did not indeed kill himself I am a skeptic and I conspiracy theories all the way away on this one the better the conspiracy theory the moral like it. I mean it's sad to see his his his widow obviously thrown up about this yeah I don't know it's messed up but I guess if that if that in taxes are inevitable maybe sometimes death is preferable. Josh the goal of giving you the chance to join one galt here your thoughts on McAfee's assumed suicide. Yeah I mean the guy said that I'll be if I'm not going to commit suicide even tattooed waxed on to his arm and said I'm you know this is proof that I'm not I'm happy here I'm going to fight the charges and and he also mentioned if I'm if I get hung it wasn't me or something like that. So it seems pretty weird unless it's like the ultimate troll to troll move but you know I I met John I got to hang out with him once for a pretty privileged I think you know he as much love him I hate him for his pump and dumps whatever I feel it taught people what scams are people burn their hands people said oh you can't trust colder personalities. Aha okay got it I'm not going to do that again and and you know this is this is the thing with the Wild West you have to you have to learn that these things but the guy was an absolute you know colorful character but he was also a champion of of freedom he really was and he lived this weird lifestyle of like this drug kingpin but without the drugs and without the kingpinage. It's just like they're coming after me I've got to have as many guns as possible and I've got to like constantly be fleeing and worrying and have massive bodyguards and you know like do you you don't run the drug cartel you know that like you just sort of John McCaffey but interesting guy and and actually really a gentleman in person to and it it's it's it's it was really sad when I got that news man. I think I think I've been kind of down about it you know and I think yeah live free or die this is the you know the ultimate motto of the Americans libertarian types and and yeah he if he did top himself because he was getting extra to the states which I find is very unlikely but if you did then it's definitely live free or die lived and died by that. We'll see I'm yeah rest in peace man. Yeah I never got to meet him but the closest I got was at the Transylvania conference when my friend Theo Goodman asked him a question and Theo came in kind of at the last minute they shoved a microphone at his face they said Theo ask a question to John McCaffey and just right off the top of his head Theo says what's your favorite gun and John McCaffey love the question he had a big response to it he talked about we don't know what's going on. It's kind of situations he'd use the gun and if it was home defense or close combat I think he liked to sought off shot gun and maybe a block something like that he was tickled pink by this question about the gun he just the kind of guy he was I think he was on the hideout on a boat in international waters at something at that point already kind of a fugitive king but just what a what a colorful character Ben arc your thoughts on John McCaffey. Yeah I mean it is it's very it's very sad and I think for a lot of his Bitcoin as well he's kind of that tragic hero in that you know his imperfections are going to be his undoing so it's kind of like watching a train wrecking slow motion like you know he's going to destroy himself and you're kind of watching that thing happen. There's Josh said he was such a gentleman like kind of a nice guy but then he just had this out this this this this like this huge amount of liberty of freedom which he exercised in a way which kind of showing like this is what you can do you know this is the life you want to live you know what then you don't want to live in a sort of normal life then you can you can do a drama cafe did you know. And I think that tragic hero you have that kind of cathartic thing when they when you when when it finally when but Beth finally like it finally happens like his undoing happens and you knew it was going to happen then it's kind of you have this sort of reflective moment and it because it's kind of almost faded that that thing will happen I do think that he probably did kill himself that it was live live free or die and for his whole life you know since he was he was on the run. Like those he was always on the run like even what as soon as he saw McCaffey he was gone and he didn't want to pay taxes and move to a different country where you don't have to deal with the tax situation and he was just always from that point just running and from reading a little bit more by his history and his relationship with his father seems quite abusive and and our colloc and things even up you know so I think that probably from a very early age he was always kind of running away from something and then you know finally he was calling. He's health is probably failing because the guy party pretty hard and he just thought you know one last ultimate role you know swear to people that I would never hang myself and then finally just hung himself i'm lucky forward to the film the make of the guy super interesting colorful human being and yeah he did scam a lot of people with those shit coin pumps of the day. But in that same respect I do think that there was some good decent human qualities deep down buried beneath all that kind of all this corrupt out of layers and I think a lot of us just had a soft spot for the guy so very sad we know and best wishes to his partner Janice and yeah I hope yeah hope people couldn't yeah just just very sad. I do agree with Ben for someone who had so much freedom he was all around the world he's been a hundred millionaire for decades now he lived in foreign countries he traveled on boats to be stuck in a cell and to see a possibility of never leaving that cell might have been too much so all the false provotto he had publicly even perhaps to his wife or his partner might not have been there in the private does seem a bit questionable. How seemingly easy it is to kill yourself in these prison cells some kind of new supply or I suppose it's just clothing they usually take your shoelaces i'm not serve the situation but it just does seem I don't want to go conspiratorial but it is very strange as I think dostoevsky said the way that you treat your prisoners is a reflection of your society and it never seems to reflect well upon us no matter the country Dan Eve your thoughts on the way you're going to be. John McAfee. I was deeply sad and I'm not going to lie I think I never met him but but I just thought he was just a cool kind of free spirit character and I love the zany stuff he did like you know obviously selling selling McAfee and then they didn't want anything to do them and then he did I think it was 2014 he released like a detailed explanation of how to uninstall it like I got out uninstall hell out of McAfee so it doesn't harass you. The fact that he was like found guilty of this man having caught a red that said he was guilty of you know pump a pump and dumps and you think okay but don't want to dump him in it here but but what about Elon and how that's working out. The fact was you know in 2017 he came out of nowhere I'm not going to lie he started he may be very happy because I still had a bag of red coin from 2014 that I've been staking so I was like kind of very happy about the whole situation about him shit coin chilling but don't worry I didn't sell the top or anywhere near it and and so but they're yeah it just seems really yeah everything just about it seems a bit suspect that the lawyer said that he couldn't tolerate it. He couldn't tolerate being locked up but then his wife said that she spoke to him you know hours before he died and and said that he was in good spirits and was like you know I'll speak to you again later tonight obviously all the tweets that he said about not being you know if it ends you know it's not because of me and it kind of does seem you know it doesn't it seems after the kind of the Epstein thing it seems like it's a yes this is a really weird okay. It's so easy to commit suicide in yourself especially when you're someone that's like of like a world renowned person you know it's different if you're just joke logs and you've been put in the self of the night and not really cares but surely there's you know even just like people guard prison guards walking past and being like yeah the gap is in here you know we'll have a look and so look for the cell I don't know it just seems really really odd and what was really sad was one the quotes which was my friends evaporated through fear of association. nothing yet, I regret nothing and that's just cool. You know, it's cool but bad. You know, he obviously was getting a lot of stick. He was rubbing people up the wrong way by saying that he was I think even that the judge says he didn't have any evidence for being politically persecuted, but that's what he'd maintained throughout. And it's just sad that kind of, you know, he got you know, what's the word marooned on this kind of island of himself and his wife, a metaphorical island because people didn't want to be associated with him because they thought they'd go down for whatever reason. The whole thing stinks like the end of the day and the fact that I don't know, like it just it just it just it just stinks. I don't know, there's just too many of these kind of occurrences that just make you think it seems like it's an easy thing to do. It's an easy thing to cover up. No one really follows looks into it that much. There was a suicide note, so we interesting to see if we ever hear about that. But even in the reporting, there's mixed reports like CFC, CBC and other news sources said that it was specifically they honed in on the fact that like it was two hours after he found out he got extra like he was being extradited. But then they failed to mention that he had a chance of an appeal, one number one and two, other loads of other news sources like associated press. So it was actually around 24 hours after or something. It was the next day. So yeah, all this difference in in in reporting, I just want to you know, find out what the what the note said and and yeah, obviously feel very much for Janice that yeah, she lost a free spirit. Yeah, the factors going back to what the sentence was, I think they were saying they were looking for a 30-year sentence. So he was 70, what 74 75. So 30-year sentence, you know, he's getting out at 105 years old if if you got the full whack. So yeah, as much as there is also the conspiracy theory, side to it, you know, getting a 30-year sentence when you're 75 is something that probably would make you want to die your own way. But on the phone right, I wanted to hear more about the whale sex. There was whale sex involved. We always talk about the company dick off, but no one ever talks about the whale sex when he had sex with whales or something like that or one or two or I don't know. There's lots of there's lots of stuff from the Gringo documentary that's on Netflix that fortunately we don't talk about and we're going to keep it that way. And I'm like, no one ever talks about those who benefit from pumps and dumps. Surely there must be some people who get out early and make lots of money and are happy. Those people are never called to the trials. So it's unfortunate to see that. But let's move on to the exit question. Exit question, say something nice about John McCaffey or tell a personal story about how McCaffey antivirus influenced your life or slowed down your computer. Let's go to one galt. You're muted. Yeah, I don't really, they didn't really influence my life much at all. I guess, I guess he was, I would have liked to see him win the 2016 Libertarian Party presidential election. That would have been a much better reality alternative sort of timeline. I think that would have made it even funnier and weirder because the other guy was just so boring and lame. I can't even, what else? I've never had his antivirus. I'm glad I didn't. I did visit Belize actually. I did a two week tour of Belize and I visited basically every town in Belize and he was known in Belize and he apparently walked around with a posse of security guards, armed security guards. He was a gangster and people were generally annoyed at him because he would show up at a bar with 20 armed dudes and people were like, what the fuck? This guy, so that's, people didn't really like him in Belize. What else? I think, yeah, no, I mean, he was the kind of guy that would show up to any podcast you invited him to apparently. So there's a lot of footage of him just shooting the shit with big corners. And yeah, I mean, if he's dead, which it does kind of look like he's dead, I mean, I like to see the investigation, then it's going to be a, the world's a little bit sadder because of that. Let's go to Josh Tagala, say something nice about John McCaffey. Well, I met him one time at another conference in the States but when I really met him and I got, was on the on the blockchain cruise and he said, my God, you're a giant. And he got all his guards. Look at this, told this guy isn't he? I'm a little bit. And yeah, I mean, just it's just, he was just a cool cat. And I like that he was so crazy but then would get called into CNBC or CNN or Fox to talk about security of the iPhones and how he could crack it. He was just, he was one of these people that just managed to get onto be like totally crazy. And I really, the first time I really woke up to John was when he created that whole video of him like lighting up his cigar with a dollar bill and sniffing cocaine and loading guns and stuff. It was, you know, and saying, I'm John McCaffey from McCaffey and then went viral online. I was like, what is this guy? Like, you know, that was like, I don't know, 15, 18 years ago or something about that. But that was just funny and yeah, yeah man. Sad, sad, you know, and this is a funny sort of thing that you have to think about is in life, you can bitch and moan about people, it goes to you, whatever. And then when they go, you do reflect on the good things about those people and not just pick on the bad things. You know, obviously you should point out bad things about people when they're alive and they're being bad for sure. I'm not saying that shouldn't but it did make me reflect on that a little bit. Dan Eve, your thoughts on John McCaffey? I'm sticking with legend. And maybe I was taking a back bite because I feared because that picture of when he's got like him and surrounded by other ladies and he's like sniffing the bath salts. Like I'm in 2017, I like, I superimposed my head at the time on him like as cryptopole but like the monopoly sort of guy. And so maybe I was like scared. I was like, what if they come for me now? They get the wrong picture. They're like, but now I think after the craziness of Red Coin in 2017, I'm not going to lie, he brought a big smile to my face. And yeah, he's a crazy stuff, but we all say crazy stuff. I mean, goodness, yeah, legend at the end of the day. But very okay, I'm going to save that for my prediction. Ben Arck, say something good about John McCaffey? Oh, yeah, well, I'll just I want to drop in on the previous thing we chatted about because I can get say, but I don't think the incentive was effort to kill McCaffey. Like it was for Epstein, you know, probably had it on the president, you know, an ex president as well. So yeah, is there's definitely an incentive to stuff that dude, but for McCaffey, now they just yoat the US government loads of money. So why they're going to kill him? They want to make an example of him and shook him in jail for 30 years. So I don't think there's much fruit. We're just going to come from that conspiracy theory. But good about John McCaffey. He invented an antivirus, like the software. You know, McCaffey antivirus is terrible. But he founded that company after. So you know, somebody had a virus and then he created a patch for it. He released it for free. He did that a bunch of times until he realized actually I could sell this. I could package this and sell this as a product and he created an antivirus software and then they became free and open source of antivirus software alternatives. So he's very instrumental in just giving people the tools to defend themselves with viruses. Yes, of course, McCaffey antivirus is terrible. But I'm very annoying and bloatware. But that original achievement gets a big nod and yeah, puts him in the hall of fame. So RIP McCaffey rast in pump, my friend. I always remember McCaffey antivirus. We always had it on all the computers at the computer lab and things like that. I of course, like you guys often told people how to disable McCaffey antivirus. Back in the day on Windows, it would check every program that ran. It would check every document. It would grind the computer when no one was using it. It was just a classic program that didn't seem to offer much protection, but offered a lot of system use resources use and really slowed down some computers. So I was often turning it off and uninstalling it. But like Ben said, it did start a whole new category of software and a lot of these early crypto pioneers and internet users just had to do it for themselves. They had to go out there and create these things and this idea, the idea of computer security, wasn't even an idea. You just install any program that came along on your computer. Don't even worry about where it came from. So that was quite a thing. Also, although I don't think it's directly based on him, there's that great TV show, Halt and Catch Fire and they develop antivirus. And it's really kind of cool and it has a lot of this kind of Steve Jobs. Be a pirate. Don't join the Navy early cipher punk computer thing going on in there. And then it gets a little silly and they invent like AOL and Doom all in 10 minutes and it gets really ridiculous. But the early part with the antivirus is fun. Josh, ecology, have more on McAfee? No, I just, one of the very first virus I got was I think I was like 15 and it was called the stone virus. It just came up saying your computer is now stone and it got slower and slower and slower and then I installed McAfee antivirus. Yeah, it got rid of the stone virus, but it made it just as slow. So I was like, is this the virus as well? But that was memory of the older antivirus. It is funny. The first one I remember is that that Michelangelo virus. I think it wasn't supposed to go off on a certain day. And one of the big ways you could protect yourself was just not to turn on your computer on this day. Like just having no Michelangelo day, you let it pass and you go on to the next one. Of course, I think that code was taken by lots of people and put into other viruses. And there's a whole study now of where the virus code comes from and it's almost like genetics. So McAfee was very instrumental in starting that idea and starting to capture these dangerous viruses like Sandra Bullock did in the net, saving them to floppy disks and preserving them so that the virus fighters could fight them and take them down in the future. So rest in peace, John McAfee. Thanks for being interesting. Moving on, just like to remind everyone to check out shop.worldcryptonenetwork.com. We've got t-shirts. We've got mugs and we've got t-shirts that look like mugs shop.worldcryptonenetwork.com. We've also got worldcryptonenetwork.com. 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And now everyone's been waiting for Dan and his prediction that he's been saving for us. It's time for predictions or story of the week. Go ahead, Dan Eve. Well, it's not really my prediction. But I suddenly thought when I was reading snowed and sort of feedback on the situation. And so my prediction is probably going to be that maybe I don't want to hit this. I'm obviously not sparing anyone on. But it does seem like if I were as a sand, I'd be shitting myself right now because they can get you anywhere. No, I don't know. I think that's a sad prediction, but I think it's a possibility. More trouble for those in prison. Ben, arc, prediction or story of the week. Sorry, sorry, I was clicking about like an idiot. I'm going to go on this in this week, to be honest, I've got the streamer co pilot extension, which I need to do a little like release for. I finally managed to finish that. It's cool. We're using web sockets and you get like a little, yeah, it's just great. Just for compositing this window with a little price ticker, which you can now have a GBP in your as well and there as well. And we've had 6,000 stats worth of donations during this show, which is actually a substantial amount of money. So while someone else is, and there we are, there's another one. That's a 10 sat donation. While other people are doing their predictions, I'll get together a LNURL, and then I'll get back some of the funds and somebody can pull on that with your order. So I'll put a QR code on the screen and then someone can scan it and get some stats out of the screens to be ready for that at the end of the show. But yeah, so just keep it out on Twitter maybe for these releases of this extension on the LN bits like official release. I'm just going to show you how quick it is. Let's scan it and pay it. I'll just pay it now and click. Let's see how long it takes for the lighting that works. No, Josh, I'll be there. There it is. It's amazing. It's because using these web sockets and we've got these LN bits, we're still in beta because we're experimenting. But now we have like these listeners, we've just listened for an invoice with a certain tag. So as soon as the invoice is paid, because we're using web sockets, it's like the speed of light, you know, you've got the rocket ship going up. So as you saw that on your phone, like, I've been doing experiments, I've been paying and before I even get that it's paid on my phone, I get the animation happening in the screen so fast. Very cool. Josh, Shagallar, are you ready with a prediction or a story of the week? Story of the week is we launched the standard IO. Check it out. This is the Bitcoin group, but I'm going to talk about this project, Pit of ours. We're really happy with it. Check it out. This standard IO, it's really, I'm just so happy with everyone that's working on it. We're a really great team and we're getting a lot of press coverage already and got some Bitcoin and crypto-oGs helping out as well. So it's going to be a great project. I'm super happy about it. And half of the team, well, one person's from Venezuela, we've gotten even an Iranian, and all of these people are really dealing with hyperinflation in their home countries right now. They know what it's like. And so for us to be able to basically tokenize gold, but not just tokenize it, allow people to collateralize, create a collateralized debt obligation, and borrow a Fiat Peg stablecoin is really, really interesting. So it's a Fiat Peg stablecoin. First one is Euro, and then we're going to launch many, many different ones over time. Hopefully all of them and anyone can generate a Fiat Peg stablecoin, but backed by their own gold holdings and crypto holdings as well. So yeah, it's really interesting, super, super fun team and yeah, joyful. Very cool. Check it out at thestandard.io. One gold, a story of the week or a prediction. Go ahead. One gold, you got to unmute though. Watch out there. Yeah, I have a prediction. I think the lightning network is already merging with podcasting, as shown by this app that Ben has. And there's a, the inventor of podcasts, apparently one of the first guys that the podcast team is now like full on entrepreneur mode, building opens or software to make podcast lightning streaming sort of micro payment stuff happen. So I think I think podcasting is going to take lightning viral is going to make a mention. Sounds great. A prediction for viral lightning podcast. Very cool. I want to give a shout out this week to Conan O'Brien. He's finishing his 35 year run on late night. This is a old Conan mug. There you can see the Conan O'Brien himself. Actually got to see Conan show in New York one time, years ago late night with Conan O'Brien, the one with Joy Bayhara and Eve Six. And it was really great. We sat in the front row. Got lucky. Shook Conan's hand. Like Josh, he's also a giant. Just incredibly tall, lanky and skinny and thin. Always been very funny, very smart. Wrote for the Simpsons. Wrote the monorail episode. Got screwed badly by Jay Leno. But don't be too sad. He's ending his TBS show. He's moving on to HBO. So talk show host, just get passed around. There's only six of those jobs and only six people can do it. So shout out to Conan O'Brien, 35 years late night, being funny. We also want to show Ben's QR code here. Yeah. So tell people again how this works. And then there's something. So if you if you if you now, you see the QR code here, this so this one here is an LNURL page. There's static QR code you can send sets to as a tip. And then here is because we've got so many sets, we've given some back out to the audience. So if you've got a lightning wallet, you scan it, and then you can suck out a thousand sets from the screen. And there's four hits on this bad boy. And then the remaining sets, which you tip does, we'll our distribute amongst us a lot. And we can use it to play around with these things. So thank you very much for that. So yeah, just use your lightning wallet. LNURL, I'll pay, I don't I think it's supported by like 90% of wallets, lightning wallets. LNURL with draw should be supported by pretty much all of them. So just go ahead and scan that. Put super exciting technology. And like one says, it's just it's great to be able to use payments in this way, you know, and just send them in and out of the screen, live and trigger things like animations and things. So yeah, scan this, get some presets. Absolutely phenomenal. I love it so much, Ben. I just every time you print, that's so good. And there's some great comments actually in the comments. There was people suggesting like an automatic, you know, give away thing. You could press a button maybe and it'll just pop up a QR code. I was just suggesting we have to scan through the chats, but there was someone I can't remember his name, but thanks for that. There was someone putting some great suggestions for improvements on the extension as well. So I'll implement those. It's good good good feedback. Very cool. Thanks again to everyone for joining us. Sad farewell to John McCaffey and apology apologies for the title of this show. I just thought it was too funny. And then I couldn't think of anything better and I just had to go with that because I thought it was funny. So there you go. We're out of time. Until next week. Bye. Bye.