The Bitcoin group, the American original for over the last 10 seconds, the sharpest Satoshi's the best bitcoins, the hardest cryptocurrency talk. We'd like to welcome our panelists, Dan Eave, the crypto raptor. Hadoo, hadoo, hadoo. Josh Shagalla from Valtoro. Hadoo, hadoo, oi, oi. And I'm Thomas Hunt from the World Crypto Network, moving on to issue one. Issue one Bitcoin crashes towards $30,000 as blah, blah, blah. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency prices have dived after a staggering something of a recovery earlier this week, according to Forbes magazine. The Bitcoin price bounced back to over $40,000 per Bitcoin following a sharp sell-off last weekend. However, the rally has failed to hold in the wake of the latest Bitcoin monthly options expiry. Bitcoin's price is plummeted to $35,000, wiping 10% off of Bitcoin value over the last 24-hour trading period. Dan Eave, is the price of Bitcoin over? Is it going down forever? Have we entered a bear market? I think we're going to zero. So apologies everyone. Pack up your bags. Put the ball back. Pack up the net. And let's just go home and just console each other. Now, obviously, I'm not going to lie. You know that this 50% to 80% dip is going to come. And yeah, I said to 80% maybe. But it's still shocked you when it happens. And yeah, I think it's because everyone's in the momentum of hope that everyone's filled with hope in them. There's crazy prices that you've never seen before. You know, in December, it was what, you know, 20K. And now it peaked to 60, nearly 64, 65. Now back down to what, 38th, something now. And as low as 30, I think there was like a mini flash crash to below 30. My mate even says that there's a falling wedge. He studies tribals like the Isoselis and the other one. And I don't know what's called there. The one that's not equal on any sides. He says, I'm still Swiss. There's a lot of edges. Isoselis, no, it begins with the S, I think. The Scarabanga. I don't know. But ultimately, equal level equal. I think one all sides. It is. This is triangle. I'm having geometry flashbacks here. This is like don't get hit by a falling triangle for a start, because it's got a pointed edge and they usually hurt. I love the people, you've got to watch out for the people that are saying, you know, buy the dip, because sometimes they're the people that also say, I never hold any USD. And suddenly you think to herself, well, how are you buying the dip? Now, if they're really clever, they're selling things like their relatives. But ultimately, just don't be scared. I mean, it just happens, you know, the house is burning around us. And the dog is sat there. He's still fine. He's still happy. This is fine. But you know, when contracts expire like the futures and stuff, it amplifies volatility that happens in the short term trend. So even though we're in a massive bull run, people kind of panic and stuff, the sad thing is that it's combined, not just Bitcoin, but combined market cap down like over one trillion. And it's insane when you think about that. That I know it's combined, not just Bitcoin, but from all time high. But the thing is to remember, some simple stats. The one Bitcoin is still one Bitcoin. Very cliche, I like it. Bitcoin dominance is actually up 7% since the crash. Because whenever Bitcoin dumps, the odds get just shattered. 24 hour trading average transaction value is 5.12 Bitcoin. This is all stats from Bit InfoChance, by the way. So it was about $185,000. So that's the average transaction price. Whereas you look at Visa and it's $1.10. I don't know, I thought I made that one up, but it's small. So you're looking at the size of the whale here. Difficulties are 22. I'm like a weather person. Difficulties at 20.22.77 trillion. And the raw power is down from 170X2-200X-240X-140. Unfortunately, it sounds like Greta infiltrated a number of mining facilities and urinated on the power supplies, bringing the total X-a-Hashdown. And also, fun fact, 90% of Bitcoin will be mined by the end of 2021. And these are all little facts to take you away from the fact that everything's red. panic, don't panic. Penny, Penny, the sky is falling. It's over. Sell the wife, sell the kids, sell the family. It's gone, right? And it's all Elon Musk's fault. That one tweet destroyed the entire market. Or we were in a massive uptrend. And now we're having a correction. And everyone who says these things are normal and markets don't just go straight up. They go wiggly up. Everyone's forgotten that. And they're like, oh, it's over. It's over. Sell it all. Run away. Go to the hills. No, I think we're going to be fine. It's another fun seasonal dip. I don't know if we're in a bear market or not. It's stupid, but I'm still sticking with stock to flow. Or as I like to say, there are only 21 million Bitcoin's. You don't need a chart to say that. You don't need a degree or a finance guy with a million followers to say that. You just say there are 21 million Bitcoin's. And you should get some before it's too late. Josh, Shagalla, your thoughts on the price of Bitcoin? Yeah, I mean, what this looks like, if you look at the stock to flow, we're definitely not at the end of this bull market according to that model. But if you look at 2017, the bull cycle, you think, hmm, this doesn't quite add up. The motor suburundae of Bitcoin is that it goes up, up, up, up, up, every day, up, and everyone's like, and then all of a sudden, more crash. And it's like, you know, suicide hot lions being posted on Reddit and all sorts. So, but this time it went up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, like it normally did, everyone's like, yeah. And then it went sideways for ages. And now it's come down. And this actually looks very, very similar to the 2013 bubble, not the two that, so the one before. And there it went down for a while. And then it went, so it had this nice up trend of crashed. It went sideways and down and consolidated in time again. And then it went really past like it went crazy. So I think, I think where might be, we might be in that sort of a deal right now. So right now is definitely a good time to get some of those fat sats in your sacks. Saying that this is definitely not financial advice. Anything that you see on the World Crypto Network is not financial advice. Don't bet the wife on this. Don't bet the horse. This is the best way to go is dollar cost average. That's also not financial advice. Damn it! So much advice without being advice. Do your own research folks. A very serious tone there from Josh. And now it's time for you to predict the price of Bitcoin. Dan Eve will the price of Bitcoin go up or down this time next week? Well, I see I've never been, I think looking back, I've never been right on this. And so I'm going to say just because of the trend in theory, this should work. I'm going to say it's going down, very down. It's going to go so down. It's the downest thing ever next week by next week. There you go, reverse psychology. Josh Shagalla, the price this time next week, higher or lower. Yeah, I think we'll see a little bit of a down. Yeah, a downer. Sorry to say that folks. Short. The panel is saying now, but now we must ask the magical Bitcoin ball, the predictor of predictors, prognosticator of prognosticators. Here we go. Shaking the ball may cause bubbles according to Wikipedia. Will the price of Bitcoin be higher this time next week? Ask again later, ask again later. The ball knows the truth, but you don't always get it right away. Moving on to issue two. Issue two Elon Musk reveals why he's backing Dozecoin over Bitcoin, Ethereum and others after his surprise call for upgrade ideas, sends its price sharply higher. Yes, Elon Musk took to his preferred platform Twitter and he said, what makes you choose Doze over other coins? Elon Musk replied Dozecoin has dogs and memes, whereas the others do not. Elon Musk is using a four year old's non technical understanding of cryptocurrency to make decisions and is publicly spreading this idiotic and ridiculous advice. Josh Tagala, your thoughts on Elon Musk and his quest for the Dozecoin developers, the Dozecoin software, his mistaken belief that Dozecoin is some way equal or on the same level as Bitcoin. Perhaps because it has the word coin in the title, maybe he would like collecting metal coins. Elon Musk, Dozecoin supporter, Josh Tagala, is the joke funny anymore? No, it's not even funny. I don't know. I've never understood the comedy of Doze, like really? It's, I mean, it's okay. You know, it's a dog. It's funny. It's got a funny look. I don't get it. It's not even funny. I like, I don't know. I find, I find the, the monetary policy of that contract really, really bad. You know, that's what I look at. If, just like I look at any other currency, if I'm going to, to start to hold Japanese yen, I'm going to have a look at their monetary policy and go, that's either good or bad. Doze, you know, these coins, they're like, they're like perpetual motion machines. Once you sort of get them going, once you, once you pull that string to get the motor going, it sort of just goes and you don't even need to trade it. It's just the blockchain just sort of goes. If there's a couple of people mining that stuff, and, and doge has its thing, it's, it's got a price. And, but if you have a look at the inflation rate, it's ridiculous. I mean, it should be because it's made as a joke. So the inflation price is 14 million a day. And, you know, big coins is 21 million ever that you'll ever see. So to me, it's why would you choose to? I mean, really, it just doesn't make any sense. It's like saying, oh, I support Venezuela's currency. It's, it's funny. And let's see that going up. Is this whatever to get them, get them with making cool cars. People like the large numbers on their Deutsch marks. They like to have millions and billions of them carry them around in wheel barrels. Wheel barrel is a fun icon that the other coins don't have. Yeah. Yeah. Wallpaper you can use dogecoin and Deutsch marks and Venezuelan currency bull of ours for wallpaper. That's so much better than Bitcoin Elon. It's just give up. Dan, Eve, your thoughts on Elon making himself even more of an idiot in public. And this is not counting the ridiculous SNL episode. I'm going to be hated, but comic sands, right? If Bitcoin had been launched with comic sands, it would be probably the reserve currency of the universe by now. Let's let's not take the Mickey. But now I do, obviously, it's a joke. I like to think it's a joke. He can't be serious, right? By saying, you know, because he wanted to get the dogecoin developers involved. And he put like a thing out on on on Reddit. And what was it? They said that some of the suggestions that came up were like, what about if we change the dogecoin fees based on the phases of the moon? Now, obviously that's that's funny to some, but not to Bitcoin bag on this. But maybe it's a messiah complex he has. It's maybe he thinks that he's doing good by, you know, instigating the, and I think this is a reasonable like, what's the word? Think thinking thing a reasonable for forecast philosophy. Well, prediction that he's he's trying to force people's hand into being virtual singing essentially. He's like, right, okay, Bitcoin is not going to be adopted because of all the virtual signals and saying, oh, I got to save the earth. And so he's trying to instigate that by, by kind of bringing up the, you know, in such a contradictory jokey fashion. I don't know. But the, but the, the, the main thing is that like John McAfee's wife is fuming I read because obviously she's like, John's roaring in jail and for the tweets that Elon's making on a daily basis, which is kind of true, although Elon hasn't kind of like got behind red coin and some other stuff that the, the job McAfee did in 2017. But yeah, I don't, I think as much as it's really bad for about from a market perspective, and the fact that Bitcoin's dropped, I think overall, hate me for saying it, the virtually signaling from the miners and more actually about the transparency of we're, you know, we're going to make it public about how green our energy is. That's, you know, that it's countering the fun. Like, you know, it's, it's, it's not doing it in maybe the most diplomatic and constructive way, but it's ultimately led to something that's good. I mean, Marti Brent had something to comment on it about the fact that it's for a good point about the centralization of mining. And you know, you get the people together in a mining council. And essentially, you're centralising people there and, you know, there's the round table thing and, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the S2, sorry, the, um, uh, say, two X, you know, potentially sort of scenario happening. But the fact is that, that it has bought companies to be a bit more transparent and kind of virtue signal their green energy, um, strategy. And that could be good for Bitcoin in the long run. Uh, at the moment, it's bad. The main thing is I didn't listen to my own advice, which is look at chart and think, could I ski down that? And the, and it was a no. I'll look back now on like two weeks ago, like, no, of course I wouldn't. You're insane. Why would I ski down that? I'd die. And then like two weeks later, I'm going, ah, I should have just sold just a, sort of just sold a little bit. Um, but yet, so if you would not ski, if you're not a skier, if you wouldn't jump down it or whatever, like, uh, dive, a dive into relevant because, you know, you're slow for diving. But, um, yeah, I don't know. I think it's bad. Ultimately, what, what, what Musk is doing in terms of market manipulation, maybe it's a bit of a throwback of the, I'll be in pissed off of Tesla and market movements based on, you know, um, on shifting Tesla prices. But yeah, I think ultimately in a bad way, it's done a lot of short-term damage, huge amount, but it counters the biggest amount, you know, the fun at the moment is energy. It's, you know, we even had China, and it was like, it seems to be all energy related. So it does do something to count about. And I think that's kind of slightly productive, possibly, but don't hate. Please. And, and does coin has such an incredible energy policy as well. Uh, does coin, which is just merged mind on the back of light coin, has no control of its future at all. It's amazing to me how far we've come in such a short amount of time. And a lot of people out there in the audience probably don't know the origins of Dogecoin. So just for a little bit, at first, there was feather coin. And my friend, Chris Ellis, who's a friend of the World Crypto Network, created something new for feather coin. It was called a community. And feather coin had a little community and they would support feather coin and they'd have meetings and they talk about it and they were really positive about feather coin for those of you who haven't heard, there was light coin, which was four times the issuance of Bitcoin and a fourth of the time. So it was considered bitcoins quarter. Then there was feather coin, which was four times the issuance of light coin. It was considered light coins quarter for what it's worth. But what's important about feather coin is the community and this idea that they had a positive group of people working around the coin to bring in more people to improve the coin, to have ideas and that they were welcoming and nice. These ideas imprinted on Jackson Palmer and Jackson Palmer and his friend, Billy Marcus, as far as I understand, spent probably about half a day modifying the Bitcoin QT wallet. They put the doge image in there. They changed the font to Comic Sans and as Josh is so fond of reminding us, they jacked up the units so that you would get millions of doge and there would be millions of doge printed every day and every hour and every 10 minutes. They thought it was fun and it was funny and they were making fun of Bitcoin. Jackson doesn't like Bitcoin. He thought that it would fail and he was kind of laughing at all of us. And he's a nice guy, but he was joking. He was contributing to the the loles of the internet. And that's what it was. It was a loles, right? But now the snowball has rolled and it's gotten so big and it's so much media and so much Snoop Dogg, Elon Musk, all these other people talking about it. The only joke now is they've turned it into this pump and dump vehicle where it pumps and you say to yourself, just like Dan, you're like, I wish I bought some of that doge coin. And then it dumps and you're like, oh, it's good. I didn't buy that, but there's a lot of people who did buy it and they freak out and they sell back to the people who pumped it and then they pump it again. And then it dumps and all those people lose their money and they sell back to the people who pumped it. And this is a cycle and I'm not sure why Elon Musk formerly believed to be a very smart man, a billionaire, X dot com, paypal, space X boring company hyper loop, all of these really cool ideas on the cutting edge of science and science fiction would tie himself to a joke that Jackson and Billy made in half a day to mirror the community model of feather coin. I mean, there's an obvious answer. They've said on Twitter that around the time that Elon again, because everything's so funny. He's a comedian. He joked that his children were buying dogecoin or he was buying them dogecoin. And how fun it was going to be. There's a rumor on the internet there's an account with, I don't know, 26 billion dollars in dogecoin and that Elon controls that account. So now he has a major holding in dogecoin. He goes out there. He was saying, you know what the problem with dogecoin is all these early holders who have too many, you should sell them and let dogecoin go free. And he's talking about himself, right? It's another one of those like say everything, but what you're supposed to and he's revealing too much. So I think it's all sadly, it's probably all monetary. He's just trying to take everyone's money and he doesn't care that, you know, these idiots are betting their rent money, they're betting their savings. They work hard to get it and they don't know anything and they love the idea of buying a dog coin and making money. Everyone here, we crossed the threshold. We had the, you know, cypher punks, the libertarians, the other bit coiners. And then now we have the get rich quickers. So they love this idea of getting rich quick. They never seem to see the downsides that, you know, if you get rich off dogecoin, that means somebody else bought it from you at the top. That's going to be a disaster for them. So not a good way to get rich, not a sensible thing to do, not an impressive thing for someone that used to just take all the credit from his engineers and people used to let him have it. Now they're like, no, you're a frontman. You're a fraud. You're a moron. And you never go full moron. And it seems like he's gone there. And the internet will never forget his sterling reputation. Elon was going to take us to the stars. Elon Musk, King of Mars. It's gone now. And he can never get it back and doubling down and tripling down on dogecoin and the dogecoin developers. It hasn't been updated in three years, Elon. Everyone can see the GitHub or the source for it, right? It's public information. There's been no commits on dogecoin for three years. There are no developers like, yes, you can get new ones and you can do all this. They say, oh, they're developers now. You're attracted to a strange dead project. It's an anomaly. It's amazing. It's it's it's really weird. And it's all going to play out like all of this is going to play out. There's going to be the pumps and the dumps and people are going to lose their money. And maybe like we've been saying that, you know, he's mad at the stock market. He's mad at these people who say you can't manipulate it and that he's going to manipulate dogecoin until there are so many victims that they cry out to the government. And the government says we must step in. We must regulate Bitcoin and dogecoin. Of course, togecoin is nothing to regulate. It's nothing there at all. But yes, it would be a disaster for all of us. Remember the big thing with Bitcoin is why aren't they regulating? Why aren't they stopping it? For most people, if you can hold your Bitcoin investment for four years, you make money. So there's no victim. The only victims are the ones who see it go down and freak out. So everyone else is no victim. So there's not everyone complaining to the government, to these things to get us to help. Maybe Elon's trying to do that. Maybe he's a big brain lex luthore type with a secret mission to destroy all of cryptocurrency and ruin all these people's lives because he thinks it's funny. I don't know. It's gone on so long. We tried to dismiss it as a joke, but he doubles down and he triples down. And it's because it has a dog. Again, to quote Elon Musk's own words as we did in the beginning. Dogecoin has dogs and memes, whereas the others do not. With the exception of the word, whereas there, I could be talking to a four year old. So exit question is Elon smart or dumb? Is this a secret plan to ruin cryptocurrency, to wreck all of the Dogecoin investors, to make a mockery of Bitcoin or is he an idiot like Forest Gump, just kind of bumping through life, being happy, go lucky, and his time of being thought of as incredibly smart is over. Dan Eve, Elon Musk, smarter dumb. I was sitting on the fence with this one because there's a there's a smidge, you know, like there's him being kind of like ignorant and jumping in like a submarine superhero that calls like, you know, diving experts, PIDOs, like he did back when the people were trapped in the cave. And there's there's also a smidge, you know, well, he knows that Bitcoin is the one and knows that there needs to be some sort of you know, energy type thing going on. Obviously he's got his carbon credits and whatever, but he's instigating a kind of greener version of Bitcoin. That's not Bitcoin cash, obviously, because we don't want that. But fun fact that we forgot, I think you touched upon it, but I think it was $100 trillion, you know, plan B that said that it said something like if you if you hold Bitcoin for four years, but everyone that's held Bitcoin for four years, no one is in a loss. So as long as you can hold Bitcoin for four years, whatever price you've got it at four years later, this isn't financial advice. And if it is blame plan B that you know, you will be up eventually. And also final thing that I did like his trolling of Vitalik by saying Vitalik Fiz the Doge, which is he probably does fear the Doge right now. Everyone fears the Doge, Turkey fears the Doge. Or good, yeah, I don't know. I think I'm sat on the fence. I think I'd like to think that he's out for the greater good for humanity. The greater good for Shiba Inu coin and other fun Doge coins that he's working on. Josh Shagala Elon Musk smart or dumb. Elon is extraordinarily smart guy. I mean, it's just that he's taken the piss out of this whole thing like Doge is a joke and he's having a joke on all of you. I mean, it's just it's just having fun with that guys. Don't take it too seriously. Don't buy that shit. It's way over prices ridiculous. Have a look at the fundamentals, invest by fundamentals. Don't invest with TA. Trade with TA if you want, but don't invest with TA. And see the fundamentals. It's just how easy it is. It's really, really simple. There's so many projects out in this world at the moment, dealing with blockchain technology. And Doge just isn't one of them. Doge is a stupid little side game and Elon's joke literally is. Oh my God, imagine if we can get this ridiculous, stupid coin to become more popular by and it doesn't even make it more popular because you can't you can't hold an inflationary like you cannot hold the Boliver up in value by tweeting about it. You know, the Venezuelan currency is going to die because they're just printing too much of it. It is dying. It is dead. It's dead. But so you just can't keep holding this up and you know trying to hold the price up on this thing. It doesn't work. And also, there's no scaling solution for Doge either. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's just nothing behind it. It's just stop it. Stop it. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Now, I wish I could say that he was dumb and I wish I could throw him totally under the bus, but I'm sure he's smart here. The first part about Bitcoin and the energy, I think that was just about getting those carbon credits, getting those government payouts for his companies so that he can continue to qualify for that and salvaging his green image, even though we all know that Bitcoin is not the enemy of greenness. Bitcoin uses renewable energy and the same argument that he used against Bitcoin works against his Tesla cars. If you plug them in at some supercharger and you get dirty coal energy, well, good as it to have an electric car and he was able to defend that for Tesla, but not so much for Bitcoin. I think he's sly like a fox. It's all about the government contracts. He thinks the Dogecoin thing is funny, a billionaire, a centric, perhaps a ask burgers like he said on sat at live, autistic type thing. He laughs at jokes that we don't get and all these people losing their money and investing in Dogecoin and getting wrecked. He doesn't see that as a disadvantage. He's doing it for the loals. He's a billionaire. He doesn't care. Plus remember, he's stealing all the earth resources to go to Mars, so he doesn't really give a fuck about you anyway. So, buddy smart. He's not dumb as sad as that is. Let's see, Josh wants to show his screen. There's a lot of buttons here. All right, go ahead. Josh, you want to show your screen now or in general? He's still muted, I think. Sorry. Just to go back to the 2013 example of this bull market that happened back then, Bitcoin went all the way to just above 200 back in the day and everyone was like, yeah, and then a drop tanked went back up and looks very similar to the chart we're seeing. But it didn't last years and years. Where would you say that you are? Here is. Yeah, yeah. And then it went this parallel. I mean, this is a logarithmic chart by the way, folks. So this actually looks way more extreme if you take out the adjustment for price and just go linear. But yeah, so I feel we're kind of around here in this world and we'll start heading towards this crazy levels now, which I see if we look at the stock of flow model, we are looking at around about 100k, something like that. So yeah, let's let's see what happens. All right, moving on. Check out the WCN clips channel on YouTube. You can subscribe to WCN clips. Let's say I was going to I was not prepared. I said I was going to paste it in the chat and I'm going to paste it in the chat. So everyone in the chat right now, subscribe to the world crypto network clips channel. We've got shorter clips of the show. We've got cool titles and thumbnails trying to help promote the main channel and the main shows. We've only got 33 subscribers. So it could be up to you if you're looking for a way to contribute to the show. Get out there and share these episodes, put them all over the place, spread them across the internet. You can do that for free. You don't even have to donate any Satoshi's at all. So check out WCN clips and shout out to the editor who does the thumbnails and the editing editor. Nice. So moving on issue three. What is taproot the proposed Bitcoin upgrade? We're learning more about taproot. I think it's 97% of the way towards activation. It needs to be all green for a certain amount of time. Then it will adopt an activate on to Bitcoin. This is the biggest upgrade since 2017, mainly involving upgrades to signatures, multi sig, security and privacy. Dan, Eve, your thoughts on the Bitcoin taproot upgrade? How is it different from last time? Is there anything you look forward to in taproot? Well, first of all, shout out to Alejandro who seemed to nudge BTC top into signaling. I think it's created a great job with that. And so like informative as well. He's so ninja on the mining scene. The current total activation if you look at taproot.watch is 97.13%. I think it just missed the window. Right. So it's probably going to be kind of confirmed in. I think I read August. It seems a bit late. Seems like a long time. But ultimately brings you know, cheaper. Well, cheaper transactions. More privacy. Oh, maybe I was wrong 97%. I was looking at the other page. Schnorr signatures. And it kind of disguises as I understand it as smart contracts as kind of complex contracts and transactions. More of kind of simple transactions. So it's better for privacy. Although Edward Snowden seems to disagree with that. Maybe that's a maybe it's a kind of snowden's a new, you know, a new mask piping in without kind of knowing. But it seems like everyone disagrees with him that you wait, you know, it's good for privacy. But ultimately lower transaction fees as well. And which is kind of which is good. The other I think the main thing is with with with taproot is that it's not contentious fork. Like they're kind of you know the sacred two X fork or even even like the you know the bigger blocks the original segment for 2017. So there's a lot more chance of it being voted in which we can see now with with the voting. And yeah, I think is I think it's a good thing for good thing for Bitcoin overall. It kind of we discussed this last week, but it there's a lot going on in the DeFi space. And it can allow for more of the reasonable like kind of price DeFi based contracts. And which are being eaten up by Ethereum fees at the moment. So yeah, I think ultimately taproot is seems pretty ninja and I'm looking forward to it. Josh Shagala your thoughts on taproot. Yeah, bring it on it's a really surprised at how quickly that's moved up the charts. And yeah, I really can't wait for it. Well done. VDC comm coming on board. There's still 77 out of 178. I just signaling so be good to bump that up guys. But wow and Alejandro man what a job. You know, he's really pulled the whole team together. And it just goes to show actually how decentralized it is. I mean, it's very, very hard for everyone to upgrade. It's taken a long time and this isn't even a controversial fork. It isn't a controversial upgrade. It's it's pretty good for everyone. And the thing is you have you have now, which is really interesting. I find it interesting. Anyways, that you have miners that are paid by competing chains. So let's say Bitcoin.com they're heavily invested in Bitcoin cash. And they would do everything to stifle BTC. So even though this doesn't compete with Bitcoin cash, it's got nothing to do with it. They could also put downward pressure on hitting those those milestones to be able to upgrade. Not to say that that is happening. I haven't looked at the stats. But I'm just saying that it's an interesting part of the whole game is that we have adversaries that are financially invested in other chains. So any upgrade could also see their chain being less useful or the propaganda that they're putting out about Bitcoin being less potent if a certain upgrade goes through. So they'll stifle the upgrade. So it's also a fascinating part of the entire attack vector of this space. And it's one of the genius things I love about Satoshi is the way that that he didn't just think about, hey, let's have a computer program that runs a decentralized network because that didn't work. He had to come up with a way that would incentivize actors to do the right thing. And this whole network of game theoretical pressures that would push one way and then push the another way and keep everything in an equilibrium working towards securing a network and keeping a network going no matter how big or how small it becomes. And it's just amazing that it's still just humming along. But yeah, this is one of the things that I'm worried about. But yeah, bring it on. I'm really looking for the taproot. I just think it's so nice to have a non-contentious Bitcoin fork or Bitcoin upgrade for once. Last time we had the fork. Because last time we were with Segwit, we had all the back and forth. And it seemed like people were being intellectually dishonest trying to just wait Segwit out because every day at Rand, they could run ASIC Boost and they could make more money. So eventually a line in the sand was drawn with the UASF. Everyone got on board. Bitcoin split into two. Then again into three or whatever, all that things keeps happening. But this time nothing like that. Just a normal upgrade. Everyone's on board. It was proposed in 2008 or 2018. Sorry. So it's old code. It's been checked. It's been looked at the ideas there. We're doing the taproot. We're also doing snore signatures, which I think allows for things like nesting signatures, like putting signatures inside of signatures and contracts inside of contracts and all kinds of great stuff there. And again, Satoshi would have adopted snore in the beginning, but it was patented. So there was some kind of patent issue and eventually it came out of patent. And now we can use it. So once again, software patents holding back software, software patents are bad. And it's also just great to see this upgrade as far as Snowden or whatever. It's the same thing where Snowden, Cuban, Musk, all of these people should have with been with Bitcoin earlier when it would have mattered, when it would have counted. When them saying something about Bitcoin would have caused headlines across the world. During that time period, they were all dismissive of Bitcoin. They all said that it wasn't important that it was a joke. And then now they've all changed their tunes. So we welcome them back, but we don't forget what they did before. Exit question. I don't know. Do you guys have an exit question on this one? No, but I think Josh made a really good point about the social attack factor and the Bitcoin cash sabotaging. And you kind of think I wonder if when Bitcoin becomes so enshrined in every technology that the kind of fact checking will expand out to counter, you know, bad facts about Bitcoin or disinformation about Bitcoin forks. When it becomes that much of a kind of global reserve currency, which it will eventually. Will there be disinformation campaigns at the same level as you see the political campaigns? And will there be people kind of trying to media and counter that as much as you see now? Yeah, I'm just like the farm, just like the farm as Sudacles pay the fact checkers. They also have a block stream paying the fact checkers. If you put it on a blockchain, then it must be true. I think when you said when you said it's a slightly bit of old code by suddenly thought of Star Wars and was like, it's a slight, it's a bit of, it's an old code, but it still checks out. I go, no. All right, let's move on to the next issue issue for Bitcoin uses half the energy of the banking system. A new paper by Galaxy digital that we've talked about before says that Bitcoin's energy usage is half of the banking system. So all the fun about Bitcoin using too much energy and it uses more country than such more energy than such as such a country and such as such a bigger country and such as such a bigger country. Well, the banking system uses twice as much energy as that country. So as well as the gold system uses twice as much and also covered in the paper always on devices such as play stations and Blu-ray players that never turn off use seven times, seven times as much energy as Bitcoin yet still energy. So what's the energy fund rules the world Dan Eve what about this energy fund now that this papers out and someone has actually done the hard work of calculating the other side how much it takes to run a bank to have vaults and armored cars and tellers and whole office buildings full of people. It takes twice as much energy as Bitcoin to run the banks will this energy, but ever leave us. Well, I thought when you said about the vehicles, it suddenly made me think, well Bitcoin mining primarily is the energy is from the actual miners, right, is you know it's not from the set up because once they set up their set up, you know, there's kind of I'd like to say low maintenance, but anyone is his mind before those that you're sat there. Fiddling until the early hours of the morning is something goes down, but it's all about cables, you know, it's about transporting masses of things here and everywhere and you think about just the monetary system in its current form of just cash and the amount of moving around of cash that you have. And it's all a lot of its vehicle based and with Bitcoin it's not vehicle based so if you were to say. You know the definition of energy and so the difference the difference between the energy and and the carbon output, for example, as in terms of fumes I think there's a significant difference there a significant difference there alone like you think about energy that comes from a power station is even if it's a coal based one it's still got a more efficient way of dealing with the emissions. Then say you know loads of different cars which could be you know which inefficient their own ways so already you have a distribution system that produces a lot of actual carbon output on top of all the all the ancillary systems that support this by banking system from physical banks to everything around it. It seems to be it's one of those things that is very it's very six of one and a half a dozen of the other you can read a paper and you know I read a paper of now and I'm not and I think logically. Oh yeah I can see how actually that Bitcoin could probably use a bit more than we do theoros and then the same the banking industry like yeah we didn't think of that before that is that must use a huge amount. And it's ultimately extraordinary difficult to quantify the because the banking systems got the current banking systems got so many different parts to it whereas Bitcoin really has only got like energy pure energy and once you start to refine the energy and make that more efficient. Whether it's a nuclear energy or renewable energy the fact is it's got less carbon emissions than than the banking industry and I think it's only a matter of time before it becomes a lot more you know commonplace that we we view this more efficient usage of energy especially from you know renewables being cheaper the whole excess energy argument that excess energy is far cheaper than the banking industry. It's far cheaper than then then certain fossil fuels and the fact that you know from a from a business perspective there are companies and even reported in China moving away from Colfew because it's cheaper to go to renewables like this if it's cheaper to go to renewables then you've got you've got a you know a financial driver of moving to to cleaner energy. And that's the kind of the key point there is that if there are there is a migration of people from from older renewables to cleaner energy then yeah I think there's a big sign that it is a lot more clean than you think Bitcoin in general. Bitcoin has a very unique fallacy working against it where it's too easy to calculate the amount of energy Bitcoin uses you say there's X number of miners in the world. You multiply it by how much energy and minor uses per hour then you multiply it by the number of hours per day that the miners run which is 24 7 365. Once you've done that you have a number that you can claim is Bitcoin's energy usage then if you want to multiply that by years then you can say that Bitcoin uses this much energy and you're done and all your works over and you can take the weekend off and go get a sunburn it's pretty sweet. Meanwhile what galaxy digital had to do to produce this report is they actually had to go to the banks they say how much armored cars use how much ATMs use how much bank branches use how much huge skyscrapers full of people use how much all of these systems use and then try to get that number they even went further they did the same for the gold bullion business and they managed to get it's this information about the always on devices as well so if you were to look into it which is not the media specialty you would find. Find out that Bitcoin doesn't use that much energy and it's not really a thing to worry about it's just that Bitcoin is too easy to measure it's too easy to measure the amount of energy and to do it wrong to just assume that it'll be the same next year or to assume that it will go up next year that there won't be a new development and chip technology that there won't be a new development and mining Bitcoin or thinking about the math there's all kinds of possibilities out there which are completely ignored when you just multiply time. It's a big deal because the numbers go bigger it's true the more you multiply by you know whole round numbers the larger a number gets that should be a headline people love math. Josh Chagalla your thoughts on Bitcoin's energy usage. Well you know the only thing that's a bigger waste of energy than Bitcoin is talking about how waste of energy Bitcoin is it's a huge waste of energy I can't believe it that's why I'm saying. And yet we still need to do it every every week every day around here because if we don't counter it no one's out there to counter it and the way debate works if you make a point and it's not addressed by the other side it goes through. So we keep addressing this issue is going to have to be. Yep and we just have to keep telling people Bitcoin energy usage is not such a big problem it's just that it's so easy to measure why don't you guys go read the report. I'm not really if at all sorry that that that just just by going you make it really good point about the fact that it's easy to say like how much what's the average minor you know and then you know make a calculation it's a lazy approach what's lazy using the least energy use a little bit more energy when you're writing your report. Do a bit more you know digging journalism on the facts and then you can give a better report. Actually what I one thing I do love about this whole situation with Elon Musk and the energy because that's this main thing I'm not even here's this whole like companies is that. For the first time Elon's getting a bad name in certain segments of society like he's always been like wherever you look Elon's been like sacred you can't touch him apart from Ben Arkill go there but. But you know doing this doing you know doing this and spreading fard and fucking with people's money as really upset a lot of people and now there's there's slowly this sort of movement is happening against this guy and you know I've never been a big fan of colder personalities I think they're corrupt they can be corrupted they can be farded and they can be destroyed that's why Satoshi left. But yeah seeing seeing Elon goes down this path I don't think he cares that much but at the end of the day he's shareholder his brand is kind of what sells Tesla the reason why he doesn't need to put any ads on television for Tesla is because the news will write anything about the guy at a drop of a heart and everyone knows he's CEO of Tesla and that's why it's one of the most recognizable brands in the world. At the moment so it's interesting to see this this play where he's starting to make people not like him and a lot of people. I'd also like to draw a comparison here between Elon Musk and Bill Gates for years Bill Gates was Teflon no one would say anything bad about him even and he looked bad and all the apple versus Microsoft documentary type TV show things but other than that no one would say anything bad about him even and he looked bad and all the apple versus Microsoft documentary type TV show things. But other than that no one would say anything bad then suddenly the the upcoming divorce from Melinda the possible infidelities and strippers and hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein comes out now they're saying that the the accounting firm that handles Bill Gates is fortune is led by another womanizing man who's been protected by his relationship to Gates and the Gates reputation is just falling apart all over the place. Meanwhile you have Elon Musk a similarly strong reputation now being destroyed from the inside so it's interesting to watch these things and just as just to say kill your heroes before they kill you right but it's always good to be skeptical of things and people into a dress things but absolutely have a look at if you if you admire anyone from anyone from Malcolm X to Gandhi have a look they have bad sides to their only human. And one of the things that worshipping people does and and only seeing the good side it stops you from being your best because you think they were some amazing magical people that don't have flaws and I have flaws so I can never do great things but you can do great things even though you have flaws because all of these people have flaws and and so don't don't you know don't put this out there that there are so many amazing people that just are flawless yeah. And I think this is a good segue to our next issue where we're talking about another flawed person moving on to issue five the fifth anniversary of Craig Wright not providing proof of being Satoshi Nakamoto you can check it out right here on the world. I did a great interview with Arthur van Pelt at my legacy kit on Twitter a fantastic researcher who's been following the Craig Wright case for years and he and I both came to the conclusion after examining all of the available evidence that Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto and that he is not provided proof of being Satoshi Nakamoto Craig Wright is as much Satoshi Nakamoto as you can see. I'm not a photo as you or I but it is amazing to see how long this con and this deception has gone on how much money he has made how many lives he's ruined with his lawsuits and continues to ruin and burn the money with legal fees and how they're still hanging on over there in B.S.V. I'm going to be a B.S.V. 2 or a B.S.S. V.S.S.S. some kind of new coin but it's an amazing story we covered all the different factors of you should have check it out here on the world crypto network but let's just go to to Josh the goal of first Josh what do you think about Craig Wright five years later still no proof. Yeah it's so weird because one of the main reasons why he won't sign apparently he won't sign the first genesis block is that well do you show everyone your bank account well it doesn't make any sense because in one way you're saying hey I'm Satoshi which is effectively showing you your bank account because if you are then I know how much money you've got in a chain in a in a in a in the blocks. But yet he won't sign it just come on come on man you know really like just just stop it stop it this guy I actually you know good like I wish B.S.V. all the best you know see you later sayonara try try your best this is a competition and it's a competition of of the best made the best chain win and you know at the end of the day what I just don't know what I'm doing. So what I like is is fraud is is fraudulently conning people into thinking that the real Satoshi is behind this project and not that project and and this is really really disappointing it's the same thing I don't like about Bitcoin cash I actually you know like the idea of Bitcoin cash I like the idea of experimenting with big blocks or with Bitcoin with small blocks and let's see what layer two does let's see what I'm doing. What big blocks do we don't know let's see there's a whole bunch of egg heads that doing mathematical models that say big blocks don't work but come on you guys are trying it good on you what I don't like is them saying this is the real Bitcoin and trying to trick people into buying it just be honest Bitcoin is Bitcoin BTC is Bitcoin you guys forked off and created that is bigger blocks let's see how it works it could work it could if you're honest about it and it does better then the flipping in could happen but it's not going to happen if you if you just keep conning people with fake stuff so that that's that's my take on it you know and if BSC want to do a whole bunch of other stuff and like I've looked into it sometimes you know you know being I've got some family members that are right into it weirdly enough I don't ask me anyway so I've you know I've looked deeply into it. It doesn't really it doesn't make any sense they want to go bigger they want to have these huge blocks which basically centralizes the mining and then when you say to them yeah but centralizing mining is not good because then they can sense the things and say well do you want you know drug lords and metaphiles on your network and it's like well that's a bit of a straw man like of course I don't want that it's ridiculous no one would want that in if they're a just person but what what you also have is if you do have the ability to sense a people then you are obliged to sense of them which means a whole lot of work which means a whole lot of policing which means a whole lot of this and that and the other thing. And then if I get some tokens on if I get some coins I'm like if a shopkeeper gets something they have to then check if that coin came to say it just becomes more control more control over everything because you start with the most extreme and heinous crimes and you slowly filter down where you have total surveillance and control over money. The whole point of Bitcoin is decentralized money is uncontrolled money now let the crime fighters fight the crime on the ground let them yeah there's a tool called follow the money it's a very powerful tool it's a great tool and you can still use it on Bitcoin but but what it does take away is that tool but the tools that it doesn't take away is good old-fashioned police work and I've gone on a crazy long run or a great right here but but I don't see how that chain can work because it's it's literally centralizing it's mining power and for many reasons and a lot of people say oh big but but anyone can hold big blocks hard drive space is so cheap but it's not about the hard drive space it's about when you solve the puzzle when you hash all the transactions you have to send that to the next to the network and all the people mining by the time your solution that terabyte comes across to you your you've still been working for like that whole time on the last block and you're oh well it's already been solved and meanwhile the person that solved has had like you know nine minutes head start on the next block so obviously they're going to get the next block too and you're just chasing it out and and it centralizes the network and it employs so it there is no way of really having massive blocks like that there really isn't as far as I can tell but like I said competition maximum here go for it make your mega block coin and let's see well one of the things that Arthur and I talked about and you guys should really check out your band pelt's uh-huh Josh oh sorry yep you're back all right I think it's working but yeah one of the things you guys should really check out Arthur van Pelt's Twitter account at my legacy kit he's really head and above one of the best fake Satoshi researchers that we have out there and one of the things we talked about is this idea if Satoshi had destroyed all of his keys if he destroyed all the evidence that he was Satoshi and stuffed it in a fire pit and burned it and it was all gone and then he says oh no I made a mistake I want to be Satoshi now and so he wants to come back and be Satoshi the minute he starts making forgeries or fake proof that he is Satoshi it doesn't matter you're a forger now the fake proof is always going to be fake it's never it's always going to be discovered eventually someone will uncover you know you use the the keyboard that doesn't have the th on it and the the whole thing with Dan Rather and the George W Bush it was made on a typewriter but the type writer doesn't have a subscript something small is always going to screw you up especially with the entire internet especially the bitcoin internet looking at the proof so why not just sit back and wait if you are Satoshi because just the way that you would screw up and making fake proof he probably screwed up somewhere in bitcoin somewhere in bitcoin there's an identifying mark that will lead back to him someone else will have the proof something else will come along and if you had the truth on your side you'd just wait but if you were a fraud and you were fake then you'd make forgeries and once you make one forgery it's just like telling lies once you tell lies you're a liar once you make forgeries you're a forger and it's always going to fail the other thing that struck me that was so interesting this time was the human story around this to some people you could look and say okay he appears on the panel at the bitcoin investor conference in 2015 then you don't hear from him for a while and he appears in a wired magazine article boom he's Satoshi right and all of this starts but there's so much more behind the scenes and there's a great article out there about this I put it on my Twitter and it's great because I can just refer to the article now it's someone else's problem but it's all detailed about how you know sadly and maybe she knew what she was doing maybe she was trying to expose him let's give her the benefit of the doubt here but it does seem like Craig Wright's friendship and relationship with bitcoin bell led to him meeting John Matonis Gavin Andrews and Roger there all of these early libertarian bitcoiners who rallied to his side and believed that he was Satoshi if not for this personal human connection that he created or perhaps for his benefit created he never would have been able to do this so it's an interesting thing to think back it wasn't you would think that you would prove your Satoshi with technology right numbers a math like the signatures match these are the same numbers you know we could all confirm that with our computers right but the way he proved he was Satoshi was with personal relationships he met with these people individually and he bamboozled them so he got to watch out for that there's a lot of bamboozlers out there and especially we also we made the political connection in the show as well and I won't do it here but there are a lot of con men and the thing that a con man is very good at and he can fool all kinds of people even smart people he's good at conning people that's why he's called a con man Dan Eve your thoughts on Craig Wright's fifth anniversary of not providing proof or something that should be easily provable for Satoshi yeah that that was the the fifth anniversary was the the BBC thing right where he went on and he did the whole proofed his signature and I think from from what I remember he he did a really sneaky thing something something is basic as putting a dollar dollar signature instead of signature as like a variable he turns something into a variable that he controlled and was like I can you know this is it but the fact is if if you're Satoshi you don't need to forge anything and even was it last year that he got caught when he was producing all the addresses that he owned and then 145 addresses were signed saying Craig is a Craig is a scammer but I like Craig is a fraud and making it you know clear that he doesn't control any of those addresses and if you're the real thing you don't you don't need to do that because you're the real thing and the Iroclimate at the Craig Wright case is you know just one of many the mediation failed so that's like I think it's November 1st is the is the date that is now scheduled to go to to to to for trial but he's had many cases and actually looking at looking at Arthur van Peltz at least he put on a few days ago sorry it was actually it was actually today it was a few tweets ago so if he listens these are the cases Climb and Versus Wright Wright Versus McCall Mac Wright Versus Hodland not Hodland not Versus Wright Wright Versus Cobra Bitcoin Cobra Versus Wright Wright Versus Bitcoin Devs Wright Versus BCH Devs and interestingly Wright Versus BSE Devs but he just goes against everyone and and it you know the problem is the courts kind of have to human people at least into a hearing now whether it goes anywhere from there or gets settled you know people can make their own conclusions like if something gets settled they'll say oh well he must have been the right Satoshi because he would have paid them off to be silent about having to unveil his addresses and you're like but they know who his addresses are because he said that he's Satoshi and therefore he's so it's just this like paradox of lunacy if you ask me I don't know and the fact was you know there was also in the Climb in case the PGP forging where he said that documents were done or emails were done in 2012 and they turned out to be 2014 that got withdrawn from court and it just it just seems like it's when is it going to end when is when are people going to not listen to it when the what's the what's the requirement for this is the level of evidence that people are going to go oh fuck off Craig let's not forget this weird thing where you get some bonded courier to have like a bunch of private keys even before there was multi-sig by the way but let's say that you can chop up also a bunch of stuff in a multi-sig contract outside of the chain anyway let's say that was the truth the truth why would you do that why would a cryptographer give it to some random company to then hopefully show up at your door so many years later it makes it makes zero sense people it makes zero sense it's so weird I can't believe people are still no and the most lethal option is that they're just really big vans of back to the future and they wanted to re-enact that scene where Marty gets the telegram from 1885 he's meet him at the corner of fifth and Elm and it's raining and he's like oh weird the office we didn't even think you'd be here we got this telegram over a hundred years ago and it contains all of the bitcoin keys and why did you do that a hundred years ago why did you do it now why did you deliver the telegram if you knew it was full of keys all of these questions are very apparent and yes when the telegram was to be delivered it did not arrive it did not have the keys or a part of the keys or whatever it was supposed to have and the story just continues you know throughout history we've always had people that that claim that they are Jesus that they are the second coming of Jesus and that they know the future and a lot of them usually how they get busted as they say something dumb like the end of the world it's coming on the and they name a date and then the date then the date date date comes and goes and nothing I'm meant another Tuesday not that Tuesday yeah it happens all the time right you get these con artists now that Satoshi you know that Satoshi left anyone could come in and start pretending and we have had a bunch of those types as well we've also had the types that just get called out like durian no kamoto that just get called out by the media but then you get these sort of self you know here I am I'm Satoshi and it's it's always and nonsense it's always and nonsense just it wasn't that like the last couple of years yeah kind of was he Swedish or something yeah long long hair and he was doing the rounds and he was like saying and and everyone was just praising him that was the guy that took a picture with Andreas and based upon the fact that he had a picture with Andreas he claimed he was Satoshi Nakamoto which makes me sit too she is well I have a picture with Andreas could say on the on the Messiah thing though I know we every now and then we talk about it and you know bit bit Bitcoin cash you know it's not doing too well come on come on Roger come back I was I was thinking that in a premonition style I thought the I thought the prophet said that on the third halfening he rose again and came back to Bitcoin but he didn't come back to Bitcoin on the third half but yeah it's insane that so many he's gonna be like Satoshi is gonna be the most more impersonated than Elvix like it by the next few years you know there's just yeah it's it's sadly a position that people are gonna want because he'll be you know effectively one of the most richest people on earth that everyone's gonna try and claim to be that without actually providing proof but it's really simple just provide proof the whole thing like if you built Bitcoin on proof of work you know the importance of proof so just prove it moving on to the exit question as Dan was alluding to how does this all end does does Craig write end up like Dr. Rooja Dr. Wright and Dr. Rooja disappearing with the money everyone wondering alive dead skiing happy rich gets away with it part two does he go bankrupt does he go to jail or part three let's be fair he proves that he is Satoshi we're all wrong he was Satoshi all along Dan Eve one two or three I forgot it's definitely not three sorry I forgot he Ruja is he going to is he Dr. Ruja getting away with it all is he going to jail or is he really Satoshi I think jail and when eventually every everyone is just sat in a citadel he's just not gonna be allowed in the citadel you're staying out bye bye Craig your mother was a tosser and your father smeltove elderbelly elderberries will just sit up there on the wall and make fun of him we won't let him in you English can dig it's I don't know if that's a knight I said knight there but Josh the gola Dr. Rooja does he go out that way does he go to jail or bankrupt or is Craig Wright Satoshi Nakamoto after all it's very unlikely I mean a person that tries that is that is someone and has an easy way to prove it I think there's yeah I think we saw Jesus my mind's going for Talik saying this as well if there's an easy way to prove something and you don't do it you go some weird complex over the top way then it's not gonna happen so I doubt that he's Satoshi I doubt that's gonna happen maybe does come on man sign the keys but I hope he doesn't because he's just a right prick be put a real stain on Bitcoin but I think he'll just I think Calvin air will eventually divorce from him and he'll just go off into obscurity and have a whole bunch of money from the Bitcoin SV 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Gox i lost a fuck ton of money now but this is really the reason why i built it that we don't we don't need to trust banks anymore we don't need to trust because a lot of people that held money on on Mt. Gox we're still waiting for it even fear if you hold fear on it we're still waiting for it there's been other exchanges where the banks have just just just disappeared or frozen the accounts or going bankrupt in Bitcoin as well in Bitcoin's history so there's a lot of just don't trust banks you know we we got into and i don't know about you Thomas but i think we can all pretty much assume that a lot of us got into Bitcoin to get away from fiat currency and why are we all pricing everything in fiat? Jambo crossed the goal that's what we do and we've got a cool project coming up which i think everyone will really love yes it would have been smart if we'd all hedged into gold last week but of course that that's what someone smarter than me did so i didn't get a chance to copy that Dan and everyone should check out vault or old vault oro.com right Josh? thanks man yeah yep and and thumbs up to this video by the way we've uh it really helped spread the uh spread the vibes i know it seems silly but youtube algorithms all about these thumbs up i don't know maybe they're itching to ride somewhere they're trying to get out you know what's annoying about the thumbs up thing is that every youtuber tells you thumbs up share subscribe i mean it's infuriating it's like it's so annoying and boring and i'm sorry to say this folks but please do it just uh you know and i would like to try to tell people i'm like well you should thumbs up those other videos too like i'm gonna get ahead of it i'm like let's give pewdiepie some thumbs up let's give mr. b some thumbs up all the other stuff we watch uh corrections on Seth Meyers show is fantastic but shout out uh but yeah it's it's it's silly and they designed it this way and they're they seemingly happy with it i have so many questions about youtube why do i push a button that go i click a button called go live then i click a button called schedule stream and i never go live why did they do that why did that well i you know you like them i tweet the other day and this is true that i watch some obscure video that gets fed to me somehow on the stream i'll watch it because it's like roller coasters made at home and i'll watch it and then for the next months i'll get roller coaster videos just because i watch that it's it's so infuriate youtube stop it just because i watched one ridiculous video it doesn't mean i want to see more i was listening to the adamic bride show and he said the exact same thing when he was talking to robeck he was like i watched a couple videos about the nfl draft but that was weeks ago and i don't care about the nfl till september like go away we did the same thing here we watched some old old mr. beast videos back when they were terrible and some yes theory videos i'm kind of interested in this yes theory channel it's pretty cool they don't need me to promote them they're these um it's these they're these 20 something guys in los angeles they're very positive they have a nice message um but they go around shooting incredible video of the things they do and they like go to egypt and they're very much like like yes man the movie with gym carry where it's like say yes to everything like they did one recently or not even recently but they did one i watched recently um where they're in an uber uber pool and they were like uh uber driver do you want to go skydiving right now and they kept searching until they found an uber driver that hit it then they got this guy in the backseat because they're picking up pool so it's the inexpensive share the uber thing and the guy gets in the backseat and they're like we just talk to the driver and we convince them to go skydiving with us and we're wondering if you want to join us and the guy was like i mean i'm in i'm in totally yeah i'm really convicted and it's just a fun show i mean they're kind of goofy guys and they're you know young and hip and stuff and they don't need me to promote them but i like this yes theory show but yeah we've been watched a couple of them and then the whole feed is filled with it the whole feed transforms you know and they don't seem to have any kind of moderate thing it's all or nothing you like this or you like tons of this yeah it's really really odd i mean just to just to go on about weird stuff about that i'm seeing online and it's sort of going on too weird but no no not too when i didn't go there but you know one thing i'm noticing a lot and i think it comes out of tiktok but i'm not sure because i'm not on tiktok but you know everyone tries to copy and it really is some some weird thing where the millennials are doing fake pranks it's like they're not got the guts to do the real pranks so they set up these fake pranks or they do these fake like serious videos like watch this girl that's in trouble and her boyfriend's abusive and and she writes a note to the and you know and she gets help but it's all set up and it's all fake and and or like the pranks are safe where someone pranks someone and the reactions are like oh and it's it's all just fake and you think what what weird reality the poor millennials what are they what have they become what have they become what have you become folks it's funny because pranks also play a part in this channel but they're more like positive pranks where they set their body up to meet this fancy instagram girl so that they can get them on camera looking you know nervous and uncertain and then they can of course do this yes they're everything where it's like you have to go talk to her because you know yes and all that so but they're fun they're fun crew I like it Dan Eve prediction our story of the week I forget if we asked you or not go ahead I think my story of the week is that I think I'm on my fifth MacBook now from the screen it's not even me that's doing it it's my my little son he's also you're like a you're like a murderer serial killer of these MacBooks now it's it's I just feel bad when they go to your house now I think I'm partly the reason for the for Apple eventually you know when it toppled a trillion dollar market cap was because of all the screens I keep breaking but yeah like if you need a screen broken I can hire out my son he's amazing it takes him a few seconds and he'll break your screen it's really cool but that's my story of the week which is really boring but that my prediction is a lot more yeah because I go for stuff that's usually a bit out there that doesn't usually get in so this week a bit more grounded I think that there will be a Dogecoin ETF before a Bitcoin ETF disaster disaster that would be horrible uh well we're going to go to the end of the show we want to give a shout out to Martine he tried to make it here with us today but he had internet issues so uh fist bump and all that he's probably in the audience watching and we appreciate his contributions too bad we couldn't get it because of the internet problems today and um thanks to everyone else for sticking with us for the live show we started a little late uh because we had the internet issues and such uh but thanks again for joining us on the Bitcoin group you should have give us a thumbs up uh check out the WCN Clips channel check out the World Crypto Network webpage thanks to DJ booth got a lot of fun stuff on there in 2900 videos if you ever bored and like I want a random crypto video uh we got you covered we got a lot of those so thanks so much for watching until next time bye bye