And we're live. Oh, it's forever. Oh, a Bitcoin group. The American original. For over the last ten seconds, the sharpest Satoshi's, the best Bitcoin's, the hardest cryptocurrency talk. We'd like to welcome our panelists, then Ark from BTC IoT. Hello. Josh Gagalla from Valtoro. Hi, folks. Martin from General Bites. Hi, there. Phil from VUN with Bitcoin podcast. Cheers. And I'm Thomas Hunt from the World Crypto Network, moving on to issue one. Issue one. Donald Trump told Treasury Secretary to go after Bitcoin. John Bolton's new book, The Room Where It Happened, is in the news this week, not just for Trump's attempt to bribe the Secretary of China to help him in the election, but also because Trump allegedly told the Treasury Secretary to go after Bitcoin. Did Manuchin go after Bitcoin? Was he successful? Did you notice that he went after Bitcoin? Ben Ark. What do you think about this new revelation from John Bolton's book? Yeah, I mean, we all know my screwy conspiracy theory about the US government in Bitcoin. And how it's very plausible that they had a handling create in it. Just going to throw it out there. John Nash and Rand and the father of game theory also obsessed with money and his study on that. I deal money. So I mean, Trump's just thankfully, no, no, no, goodness. There are plenty of checks on power. And although Trump may want to go after Bitcoin, because he thinks that going after Bitcoin is in effect going after China, then thankfully, there's these checks on power. And there are people behind the throne who have a more informed decision over the power of this technology, which we're all aware of. So it means very little, because he goes after everything anyway. So I think people take it with a pinch of salt. But it's really nothing to worry about. But it's an interesting revelation, though. It's kind of cool, sir. I mean, I think a lot of us did think that Trump might in fact be pro Bitcoin, but that was one of this maybe saving graces, but he hasn't got that for him. So yeah. So yeah. Josh, good go. I mean, Bitcoin was built not to satisfy governments. The whole reason that those who left was that he knew that he would be an enemy of the state, enemy of big oil, sorry, big banking. Well, it is also big oil. An enemy of just a whole lot of things, powerful things. So to think that governments don't like Bitcoin is naive. You know, of course, they don't like Bitcoin. The fact is that they can't do anything to stop it. Sure, they could stop on ramps and off ramps. Maybe somehow like convenient ones, but they can't stop Bitcoin. They're hopeless. It's like stopping smoking weed. You just they can't do it. Martin from general bites. I haven't noticed anything that they're trying to stop it, but I do think that they're trying to make the on ramps and the off ramps increasingly difficult. We see a lot more regulation in the space nowadays. People get prosecuted because they're running a so called illegal money transmitter service, if they just operated at 8 AM in their store. So they're adding extra hurdles in order to be able to buy or sell Bitcoin or started Bitcoin in business. We've seen a similar situation in Europe with AMLB5. And this fat F Trevall rule doesn't make it much easier either, but I think I have to agree with Josh and Bitcoin doesn't get stopped by anyone. They can make it difficult, but it won't be stopped. Let's go to Phil. Yeah, leading going on the tracks from Martin, that's exactly right. They can make it difficult, but it can't be stopped. I also kind of, for me, when I read the article, I thought it was kind of funnish because they're drumming up this conversation from 2018, which to be perfectly honest, here we are two years later, excuse my language, who gives a fuck? They didn't do anything, nothing changed. At the end of the day, we're all still stack and sat and more and more people are getting into Bitcoin. So to me, it's just like it's an attempt to create the perception that something is happening, but these people got nothing. As a political junkie, I was just thrilled that Bitcoin was mentioned. I've been wanting to read this book since the impeachment drama. And of course, I thought Bolton should have testified instead of writing the book. But all along the time, no one ever mentioned that they mentioned Bitcoin. So I thought it was just great that we're mentioned. I agree it didn't have very much effect, but it was not a surprise. Let's move on to the exit question. Will the price of Bitcoin be higher or lower next week? And will it be because of Secretary Mnuchin? Ben Arck. Yeah, it will be higher, but it won't be there. Nothing's to do with them. No. So impressions are important. So, like you say, just having, when you get, when you just hear Bitcoin in media or in a film or it pops up in conversation on the radio or some politician mentions it in some book, it's still an impression. And it's still just laying those seeds, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, and people's minds until they eventually Google it and learn from themselves what Bitcoin is. I'm just glad the president knows about it. As other people have said on Twitter, he didn't say, get me Ethereum, ban me Ethereum. Josh Gagala, higher, lower. They're muted. It'll be higher until it hits 10k, then it'll bounce back down. It'll keep bouncing between 9 and 10k. It's got nothing to do with any politics. It's just the market of greed and fear. Martin. I think it will go higher, but I'll leave it up to the magic 8-ball to really, really decide what's going to happen. A preview of coming attractions. Phil. Okay, well, I'm going to give the contrarian view and say that it's going to be lower, but it absolutely will have nothing to do with the notion because he's irrelevant anyways. It's a little power for the Treasury Secretary, nothing at all, nothing given. And now the Bitcoin 8-ball, the predictor of price, will the Bitcoin be higher this time next week? Let's get again later. The ball has spoken and it doesn't want to answer. Sometimes not that satisfying. Moving on to issue 2. Elon Musk Bitcoin Vanity Address used to scam users out of $2 million. Previously we heard it was only $150,000, but now we're told that scammers have made more than $2 million with SpaceX and Elon Musk themed giveaways on YouTube. It's pretty easy. You put up some graphics. You run a video of Elon talking about space and then you say you're going to match people's Bitcoin donations. If anyone asks you, they say they're going to double your money and send it back to you. Don't send them your money. The whole point of Bitcoin is it goes one way. We also have scammers in the chat down below in the comments. They come back every day telling you to call people on the phone or to contact them on. Telegram, these are also scams. This scam is unique because the scammers used a custom Bitcoin address which anyone can generate with their computer takes a couple hours or days depending on how complicated you want your Bitcoin address to be. These ones were started out with one Musk or one Elon Musk which apparently continued and worked better in tricking people, gaining them $2 million. Josh Gagala, why do these scams keep happening and would you send your money to Elon if you promise to double it and send it back? Never. No one is sending you double anything folks like what the hell? Anyway, I tried to get one Voltura made years and years ago. This was back in 2004 or something and when we're just programming the thing and man, we paid this guy at specialized hardware back in the day to try to churn through it because basically you're just brute forcing. To get Voltura is a couple of months but to get Voltura that one extra letter is exponentially higher. It goes up silly amounts. To get the full Elon Musk, that's a long ass guess. They would have spent a lot of money generating those addresses. The return on investment there is pretty good I guess but that's it. It looks folks. What is happening here is that people are getting regulated. These scammers are the new regulation because it teaches people, don't be idiots, learn about risk, understand risk with crypto because there's scammers everywhere. We can't pass laws to stop these sorts of things happening. You can pass laws and put so on. People have to burn themselves on the candle before they realize that things hot. These people that are sent money to this address will probably never ever, ever send money to a scam that doubles their money ever again. There will be a lot more ready to actually invest and earn some proper money. Maybe they've learned their lesson. Martin. Yes, I used to use the Fennity Address generator at the time. As Joss said, it does take more and more exponentially, more computing power to generate extra characters. What I think is happening here is that they use stolen Amazon cloud credentials and then in running up the bill for the person that actually owns the account and then use that computing power to generate those custom email vanity addresses. Yes, it's sort of tax for stupidity. If you think that give me one dollar, I'll give you two back. It makes no sense. Why does it make sense in Bitcoin? I really don't understand. Those scammers in the chat are kind of annoying. I keep reporting them. I've noticed last week I was approached by a fake Eddie for start-up Eddie. It was start-up Eddie and CryptoStush is another YouTuber. He had a fake account too on Instagram and they approached me and asked me if I wanted to invest in them, one of their shitty tokens. They were all fake accounts. I saw Brock Pierce is having fake accounts. I think everyone and anyone in YouTube will eventually get those scammer cockroaches after them to try and scam them. Thomas, see it has a compliment that the scammers found you. See, it's a good thing. They just trust Elon Musk so much. They think Elon's going to give them money. They previously ran these same scams with Steve Wozniak, but it wasn't as big a deal for some reason. Elon Musk, outer space, Tesla, they just think he has money to give away. All right, let's go to Phil. What do you think about Elon? I think, first of all, it's definitely a brilliant, I mean, it's a brilliant fishing scam. They're obviously doing those very much in the news. In terms of their execution, these guys definitely get out. The main key takeaway, which is what everybody said on the panel already is, no one is just going to hand somebody, I got taken by one of these scams two years ago because of money better. Right? I just figured it out. And yeah, you get burned and you learn. And it's got to be careful. That wasn't fun with Bitcoin. No, it was. All right, it was bad stuff with shit coin, actually. There you go. Let's go to Ben Ark. Go ahead, Ben. Yeah, it's always sad because it does, you know, any scam attacks the most vulnerable people in society. And they're the ones who lose out. But I mean, this is one of the features of, you know, censorship, resistance, money is that you can't stop scammers coming up with new innovative ways of scamming people. What amazes me is that people with Bitcoin, you know, who can have a, I assume, have a private key and have some basic understanding of Bitcoin kind of get, you know, pulled into these scams. But I suppose maybe a lot of them just have money on an exchange. And I think the reason maybe there are a little bit more successful with someone, more of a wild card like Elon Musk is because he comes up with all sorts of crap on Twitter. So there is, you know, a slim possibility that he could just say, where is, you know, some free Bitcoin, if you send me some Bitcoin. No, it's, there's no way you can, you can, you can try and regulate these things out of, you know, social media, but that would fall on the shoulders of the media platforms, which is quite hard to do. It is just a case of education. And I've Bitcoin us with a wee bit of common sense where the ones who need to go and tell people that these things are scams and where the ones who kind of try and need to make people aware. I think very, I think a lot of it could be people who've got kind of English as a second language, maybe kind of a lot of those, you know, that the Chinese investor, grandmother who you hear about, who kind of invests in all the shit coins, I think maybe them, it could be, they could be a lot of the ones who kind of, because it was a large sum of money they managed to make on these public addresses. I think it amounts to about $2 million, which also also means that considering the amount of investment they put into the scam, the return of $2 million is a lot. So it means that these scams aren't, they're just going to increase, particularly when you know, news outlets like us do articles and talk about them, because there's some opportunistic people out there who just think, well, I said, good idea, someone made some money, so I just copy them and do the same thing. So no, it's education, sadly some people are going to get burnt, but we shouldn't revel in the fact that they're getting burnt to learn a lesson and we should try and educate people as much as possible. But yeah, if anyone's off, saying they're going to give you free Bitcoin is probably a scam. Unless it's me on Twitter with my Ellen URL faucets and then, you know, usually that is an scam, because you're just scanning it and getting Bitcoin anyway. So, but yeah, if anyone's going to say they're going to give you free Bitcoin is probably a scam. I exit question as Ben was saying in the interests of helping the scammers and doing some brain storming for them, they've done these scams in the past with Steve Wozniak and now Elon Musk, Josh Kagala, who would you like to see the scammers feature in the future? Who would be the best face of the future Bitcoin scam? Craig Wright would be cool. Craig Wright, go to Martin, go ahead. Yeah, I think Greg Wright would be the best one. I thought of somebody, I thought of Donald Trump, but nobody would believe it, but Greg Wright would be cool. They would all be angry with his Greg Wright. I'm just kidding. Steve Trump working, people thinking Rich that he's giving away a lot of money. That's why the Elon one worked. It was so easy for him to give away money. Phil, who would you like to see on the next giveaway? Oprah. Oprah, Oprah's been giving cars away for years. You get to come to give away Bitcoin. You play the same footage. You do the same thing. Everyone gets fired up for it. They know the history. I think it would be good. Again, it's like, I hadn't heard of that, which is part of the novelty of this. When you go up to the scam and you're reading it, you're like, Elon's done this cyber truck. He's done a self-driving car. He's going to take us to Mars. I just hadn't heard that he's giving money away. It fits right in. The same thing for Oprah. I like that. Okay, let's go to Ben. Ben, who would you have giving away money next? You need a wild card. Craig is a wild card, but he's not going to give away Bitcoin. He's going to try and give away B.S.V. That's the most telling point. These scammers are using Bitcoin. I got a friend who got a website I made from years ago. Recently, he got an email saying that someone had gotten hold of his customer database and they were wanting Bitcoin. It wasn't Mineral or Zcash. It was Bitcoin, which they wanted. That's the important point. It was a scam anyway. They didn't have anything. It was a lot of books. That chick from the money broke Harry Potter who was hopping on a Bitcoin recently on Twitter. She'd be pretty good. She'd be a wild card. Yeah, so you could do a scam where she says, I've got Bitcoin. I don't like it. So I'm going to give it all away. Send me some Bitcoin and I'll give it away to you. She has to be known to give away money as well to people. So you also named JK Rowling. That's the JK Rowling. JK Rowling, that would be a good one. She also got a lot of trouble for other stuff recently. My pick, I want to say again, is not quite Craig Wright, but Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi Nakamoto, it's really easy to just get the anonymous with the question mark. You say, I'm the creator of Bitcoin. That's why I have so many of them. I'm happy to give them away to you. Watch the next scam with Satoshi Nakamoto. Moving on. Did you know the World Crypto Network has its own store? That World Crypto Network. .store. You can get the amazing Trezzers Don't Float T-shirt and the 2020 Bitcoin having edition of Bitcoin. Not bombs. Check them out at World Crypto Network. .store. It's something magic April there. It might be. It does kind of look like it. It has that you all ask out of logo. Also we've got the World Crypto Network podcast at worldcrypto network.com on Apple podcast, Spotify and other places where podcasts are heard. Moving on to issue three. Chinese officials say Bitcoin doesn't make the top 10 cryptocurrencies. That's right. Chinese officials don't like Bitcoin and they ranked it 12th in a recent blockchain evaluation index. What do you think about China and Bitcoin? Let's go to Martin. You're muted. Yes. Sorry. I think Bitcoin is really still number one. The fact that they mention all these altcoins I want necessarily call them shitcoins because maybe some have a purpose for it. But they're all struggling really for a use case. Most of them, well, Bitcoin already has found this use case a long time ago as a store of value. Let the Chinese officials think that Bitcoin is not number one. Then they'll leave it alone as long as possible. So I think this is fine. Nobody is interested in Trump. I believe the plus token scammers while back they all they were interested was Ethereum and Bitcoin. It shows that Bitcoin is the one that has value and the rest is just playing catch up. I'm not too worried about that. I'm not too worried about the Chinese. I like the Chinese products but their whole coin craziness I country laid so. They love China coin but they hate Bitcoin. Phil, what do you think about that? Viewed it or frozen going to fill. Sorry about that. I apologize. I apologize. So essentially the first question is do we actually trust the information that comes up China? I don't know that I do. The second thing is that what is the area of their evaluation index and what exactly, you know what I mean? Who are the experts that are waiting? So I don't necessarily trust the metrics and to be perfectly all they have to be actually meaningless. So. And the winner for coin that serves China's interest the most is. And it looks like Ben has walked away so we're going to go to Ben here. Ben are you back with us? What do you think about China leaving Bitcoin off the top 10 list? Yeah, I was always saying there's a culture of shit coinery which comes out of China. And it always has been. And it's good. It's good that maybe Bitcoin is the one which comes and is harder to control. So maybe that's the reason in which it's the one which doesn't make it to the top of that list. But now it's like I said before it's all those Chinese mothers and grandmothers playing the stock market, playing the shit coins. And they're interested in things like EOS because you have these crazy pump and dumps and they're able to make a little bit of money. But now I mean like so we're going to go off topic a little bit but it's a pretty cool story. Earlier this week, so my partner she does academic research and when they do academic research if they have to write a protocol of how they're going to do some sort of study. So we know the way in which they're going to do that study. And then they have to time stamp that protocol so they don't change that protocol in the in the you know after the fact after they release their data. And it was a she's actually working with Oxford University in the way in which they time stamp is by literally taking a picture of the files on their computer with the little dates on which is really pathetic. And so she asked me she said well how can I do this? Can I use Bitcoin? I was like hell yeah. And like it's the most immutable data on the planet. And that's why Bitcoin's important. That's why I try on and EOS and Ethereum and all that other crap just doesn't matter. Because yes like you know some of them may be faster if you're paying on chain or whatever. But the reason I don't mind is the immutability of Bitcoin which is really a strong point and we talk how protocol she wrote we hashed it with shatty five six. Then use batch 32 to make that into a Bitcoin address. Burnt some Bitcoin. Then it's in Bitcoin to like a couple of quid. And then she in every single time there's a new block added to the Bitcoin blockchain. Her protocol is being secured more and more. And it's the before Bitcoin there was no such thing as digital scarcity. And there's never been anything which has come close to its ability for immutability. So so Bitcoin's number one and this is a list doesn't matter. It doesn't it all it may reflect is maybe people's idea of what a valuable cryptocurrency is in China. But it's it's absolutely no reflection on what actually is a good quality project. Excellent moving on to issue four. Second wave. Is this the second wave of COVID-19 in the US or are we still in the first? Let's not argue over the little details. It's not important whether World War one and World War two were two wars combined or two separate wars. What's important is a lot of people died. The United States is reopening Florida and Texas. We're leading the way opening beaches, haircuts and more. All so the American people could get out there and spread that virus as predicted by China. As predicted by scientists and other people as predated by China. We can look at the examples of other people and see what's going to happen. The United States seems to be in the midst of a second wave of the COVID-19. Let's go to fill your stuck here in the United States with me. What do you think of the United States as response to Corona virus and how this affect Bitcoin? That's definitely a multi-pronged kind of answer, right? I definitely think we never really got out of the first wave. I think people here were just so desperate to just get the hell back out there. People just don't want to have anything to do with it. I'm even going out and you just see everybody not even really wearing masks or anything like that. Don't get me wrong. We see a lot of debates that are going on with the masks and everything. Everybody trying to assert their alphaness and I'm not going to wear a mask and all right, whatever. But the reality is it's like, at the end of the day, you're walking into a public place. They want you to wear a mask. Just put the fucking mask on. It's really not a big deal. It doesn't hurt your manhood. All of your ideals are still intact and that's it. Then you get back and go along your way. To your point about, does it affect Bitcoin? I think COVID has been great for Bitcoin because I think what it's doing is that it's just like, because everybody is sitting at home or the majority of people are quote unquote being forced into being at home, they're doing a lot more online shopping. And as the digital world really converges much more into reality, it just seems much less of a leap that the value store is digital. So I actually think that COVID has given people time to sit there and do a little more research and get to learn about their native currency Bitcoin. I agree, Phil. The United States doesn't have a culture of mask wearing like they do in Asia in Asia. They beat this virus relatively easy with a combination of staying home and wearing masks when they went out. We just don't have the culture. Unfortunately, it's become a political issue. As you say, it's a macho issue. People don't want to wear the masks yet. If you think about it, it's not that big an inconvenience. It's not expensive or anything. You can get some masks, not that bad. And you just wear them till the virus goes away, kick the shit out of this virus, get back on team human and win this thing. Ben from England, you don't care about the virus. It's over in the UK. It's over in the EU. What do you think? Actually, I guess the UK is probably worse than the EU. But what do you think, Ben? Yeah, no, it is worse. I mean, they're starting to ease off in England. But remember, I'm on a little sky-shyland. They're actually in quite a small community. And amazingly, in a smaller community where people are much more socially distant, naturally more socially distant, because they're further away from each other. They take it much more seriously. And then I've heard from reports from back home and people in England as well. The reason in which, I believe, that the reason in which the cases sort of may have plateaued, or maybe even going down in some countries, was because we were under quarantine. And that's what's going to happen. And now we're not under quarantine. And the government is taking the foot off the brakes. It's very plausible that there's going to be a huge infection spike, of course it is. I get swept away with this idea that maybe we're over it, and maybe there's a lightest strain running through the population, and we're all going to be bad. But blah, blah. But I just don't think the infection rates there. So I think it's very likely that we are going to have a second wave. We always kind of annoys me that you have these Jamison-Lup loving. And I said this before, privacy advocate Bitcoin is against wearing masks. Like, God damn, we've got an excuse for the next decade to walk around in masks. The cameras can't get us. I saw Jamison-Lup doing a talk on crazy fucked up glasses, which like blank out CCTV cameras. All you need now is a mask. Wear a mask. Why not? Society's changed. And very sadly, we're probably not going to be able to go back to the wall, which we've got used to. But again, as always, I hope I'm wrong, and I hope I'm just being a scammer and go, and everything will be fine and dandy. But I think it's unlikely. Yeah. It does seem like they'd love the masks. They're very privacy-protecting. But then the other side is they won't do anything that they're forced to do, even if it's good for them. Jaskagala. I mean, yeah, being in Berlin, I'm not in Berlin at the moment on Switzerland, but during this whole crisis, I was in Berlin and Potsdam. And people just naturally wore masks, because they were like, oh, I don't want this weird Chinese fluting. And I just like, what? But Germany's been fantastic, really, in terms of hospitals. There's way, way more hospital beds than it's been needed, where asking people, I mean, the Germans, not where, like, I'm just... But the Germans are asking people to... The government, like, rushes to come in, and other people are coming from us. So it's pretty, it's pretty, pretty chill. And now they're opening back up again. People are still wearing masks when they go to supermarket, but yeah, it's pretty relaxed. And I think, at the end of the day, I mean, America hasn't really even hit... But America hasn't even hit the first wave, and it's got to go all the way through to second and third and fourth. And there's not a wave, it's just a constant. I think it really highlights the hospital system as well. The hospital systems, in the countries that are really suffering, it's really all it's doing is highlighting the hospital system, weren't up to par. Exit question, let's get down to brass tax here. When will we be able to go to Bitcoin conferences again? Bill? I hope really soon, because I was supposed to go to Bitcoin 2020, and that never happened. So I'm really hoping... I mean, if you're actually looking for a timeline, I'm thinking like six to eight months from now, depending on what the numbers look like, and the kind of fear that's being driven in the news. So I'm hoping six to eight months from now. That's too bad. Bitcoin 2020 canceled. They must have paid a lot of money for that domain name. It sounds really cool. It really rolls off the tongue. Martin, when can we go to conferences again? This year at HCPP in Prague, to be honest, I don't think anything before September, October will be happening. But I think with a mask, it should be possible. We see an impact. People are out and about without a mask, only if they're in official inside buildings. They wear a mask. I'm based in Amsterdam. Nobody wearing a mask at all. I'm the only one wearing a mask. So I think if people wear a mask inside, we could already have a conference right now, but it's just that all events have been canceled. I suspect around fall, hopefully, just fingers crossed. That would be the great irony. If even at the hacker convention, where everyone wants their privacy anyway, they were still refused to wear a mask because they were forced to. They can't do it. I bought a Bitcoin mask with Bitcoin revolution on it, custom print sets. So I'm all ready for it. Although love that if they can accept it. Ben, your thoughts on when we can go to conferences again? Yeah, I mean, I'd love to go take a CCP. And actually, I think you would probably find that a lot of people there will wear masks, say for the privacy benefit. And also because hackers and, you know, they're actually very civic minded and and and they're aware of the risks. And together, I'm going to be some pick out at Libertarian types. You just refuse to. And okay, that's the choice. That's what I want to do. That's fine. But as I'm a I'm a doom and gloom are sadly. And I think that we're going to have another wave. There's also escalating conflict. There's economic issues. Eventually, when we do climb out of this thing, the cheap flights we all got used to probably aren't going to be there. Well, there'll be some landed planes. So maybe people come some Bitcoiners can buy those those planes and create a easy jet some rhinos. We can fly around nice and cheaply. But I don't think I don't think it's going to be any time this year. Very sadly, because I as you know, I had a list of conferences I can hit this year. And actually, I kind of got into the point with my little gizmos and hacks that some of the conferences were willing to pay for expenses and and traveling expenses and things. So I was going to be able to attend more conferences this year and I had to stop all that. So that's kind of sassy. But yeah, just, you know, everything's moving online, man. And we're all going local. So maybe some local conferences and then some cool, you know, like the hack sprints, Jeff, organizers, full moon, they're great, some online stuff. But no, I'm not hoping that there's going to happen this year. Maybe, you know, HCC people happen, but for people in Prague or people who can get that nice and without, you know, having to get on a plane or anything. Especially now that they've banned alcohol on American airlines. Josh, good go. When can we go to conferences again? When people don't give a fuck anymore, which will be pretty soon. It's going to be forever. I've been saying from the beginning, we're going to wait till the vaccine, which is always a year and a half to two years out, no matter that we've been on this thing for at least six months now. It's going to take a vaccine. There's this idea of herd immunity, but in veterinary medicine, that's when you wipe out most of the herd and you just give it up as a loss. I'm not ready to give up the human race as a loss just yet. So I think we should keep fighting this thing. It's going horribly in the United States. It might come back every year. We might never be able to drown it out. But in Europe and other countries, they're doing quite well. So we'll see if they keep letting in people from the United States how long that lasts. And I agree with them. We're going to have problems with the airlines and the flights. Meanwhile, there's this article this morning. Say we have six months left to solve climate change that we need to come out of the lockdowns with a new plan to not put carbon in the atmosphere anymore. I think we're going to miss that deadline. And they also said Siberia is on fire. So Siberia is very hot these days and that can't be good either. Let's move on to predictions or a story of the week. We're going to bend first, got a prediction or a story of the week. Go ahead. Not all right. I mean, I've been messing around with the hardware wallet stuff and I've been chatting a lot to a step in the cycle of the guy came up with a spec to hardware wallet. He's just fucking awesome. And like his, the hard we know libraries. One I used to make my hardware wallet. I recently got this little risk five micro control account that came today. In fact, and this is a five dollar micro controller and it comes in the funky little box. And I'll be turning this into a hardware wallet. And it's more secure than the other micro control I'm using. So I'm looking forward to hacking into that. The other thing which I've been exploring this week is having, so using a smart card, putting an LNURL on a smart card. And then the smart card has a shared secret with the LNURL server. And then you load it with an LNURL withdraw or a faucet essentially. So you can withdraw X amount of satoshi per, you know, 10 minutes or hour or whatever. And then when you use it, when you tap and pay, when you tap it on a point of sale, you'll give them the withdrawal faucet. But you'll also give them a one time use key generated from that secret, which they can use to withdraw the front funds just once. So it completely simulates tap and pay in a secure way. In exact same, you know, there's that same tap and pay experience which we have in Europe and I know which you're starting to get more in the US. Anyway, I was speaking to Steppen about this. And I think it's okay for me to mention because it's public on its GitHub. But with his Spectre hardware wallet, he's been working on having the private key for a Bitcoin wallet on one of these smart cards. And then so you save a point of sale generates a transaction. You can communicate the transaction to the card and then the card's actually powerful enough to sign the transaction and send the sign transaction back to the point of sale. So you could potentially have the two solutions in one smart card. So you could do micro payments for your coffee or whatever else using the LNURL pack or you could do much larger payments using on-chain payments by signing the transaction. And you can limit it as well. So you know, you're not exposing all your funds. Again, you can limit it to a couple of hundred pounds a day or whatever. You can do larger on-chain transactions while on the smart card. So we've been talking about that. And I can super excited about that hack. And I've ordered a whole bunch of smart cards. So I'm looking forward to building that. It's going to be great. All right. Josh Gagalla. Go ahead. Sounds amazing, Ben. Yeah, there's nothing really on my end. I'm just in Switzerland at the moment looking around for somewhere to stay for a while. And because of just checking things out here in terms of business and regulation now that the UK is going to leave the EU, we've have to sort some things out there business-wise. But it's, yeah, we have the affiliate program again coming up very soon. We're just in the final things of testing that's the only news I've got, which would be up next week hopefully. All right. Let's go to Martin from General Bites. Go ahead, Martin. Now that everything is well more or less normalized in Czech Republic, our offices open again. So all 28 of us are working from the offices again. Is that a working from home? So that's cool. We sold our 4,000 ATM last week. So that's my test. It took us like six years to sell it took like six years to sell 3,000 ATMs and it only took like seven months to sell to four and a thousand. So there's definitely a pick up there. We launched a new BATM model, the BATM2 Pro. It's the yellow model that most people know. It's the small model, the one way ATM. But the Pro version is extra fortified, has special locks. Really is the machine for tough neighborhoods. So now we can also place ATM in tough neighborhoods. And I just work today on a sale for the BATM4, which is a flagship model, which will go on sale because of the COVID. We had to be creative with shipping. So we stuck a lot of machines in the US warehouse. So now we can ship to our US clients from the US warehouse, meaning no customs services or brokerages to deal with overnight shipping, really low shipping prices. So yeah, lots of things happening. It's good that this whole COVID thing is dying out or it will go away by itself, trim promise. So he said it again today or yesterday. So we're back on track. And yeah, that's what's about this for the week. Very cool. General byte Bitcoin ATM. So everybody check that out. All right. Phil, do you have a story of the week or prediction? Go ahead. Yeah, I guess I can throw in two things. I want to give a shout out to 21 is enough. He does the lightning ATM. And I've started to buy the final parts that I need to build that. So I'm looking forward to building that and printing out a custom 3D case for it. And the other thing to look for is that on the 21st, for people who aren't aware, there's a Bitcoin cipherpunk magazine called Citadel 21. And they're going to be releasing the, they're going to be releasing volume three on June 21st and that's Citadel21.com. All right. Very cool. Check that out. You can see Katia and Halle not are working on that. So good stuff from Citadel 21. I think that's about it for the show. We've been doing a daily Thomas Hunt shows. If guys have checked those out, kind of move the Bitcoin news to the beginning. So maybe you could watch that part and then you don't have to watch the other news or you can watch it if you want. But we've been having a good time doing about hour shows every day. There's my timer saying that this show is supposed to be up. So we're running out of time. Ben, get ready with the button. Until next time. Bye. Bye.