The Bitcoin Group, the American original, for over the last ten seconds, the sharpest Satoshi's, the best Bitcoin's, the hardest cryptocurrency talk. We'd like to welcome our panelists, Jeremy Gardner, from Auger. Theo Goodman from Transmission to Rocks. Will Penguin from Satoshi's Social? And I'm Thomas Hunt from the World Crypto Network, moving on to issue one. Look at how fast my new computer can activate screen share. Issue one at long last. In the summer of 2015, after promises of winter 2015, Ethereum has launched. Ethereum, the blockchain of programmable contracts, is here. The largest crowd sale in crypto history with more than $18 million in sales, has arrived. What will it pay off? Jeremy Gardner, is the Ethereum a success? What will it bring us now that we didn't have before? Ethereum is not a success because it literally launched yesterday, but it is not vaporware anymore, which is beyond awesome. I mean, it's one less argument I have to have in my life. Whether or not it will be a success is yet to be determined, but I think it's very promising. I couldn't have more faith in the team. It's going to bring on a lot of revolutionary applications. I was looking at their deck. They have their 74 decentralized applications we can build on Ethereum right now. That just blows my mind. I mean, it just launched today, yesterday. So I think it's got a very promising future out of it. 74, but the only one I've heard of is auger. Rock and roll. I'll take it. Yeah, I'm really excited about auger. I think that's really a cool application. I'm glad that Ethereum finally launched. And I'm glad that it did launch, that it didn't not launch. That's excellent news. Like you said, it was the biggest IPO ever. I always said most epic IPO in crypto history. But now that it's launched, I'm not even going to use that IPO works. That's such a negative connotation in the crypto world. So now that Ethereum is live, that's great. And my understanding is now that it's live, the guys that want to use Serpent for on Bitcoin blockchain Serpent things can do it now because they're going to try to use the same standard of the coding language that's used in Ethereum on the Bitcoin blockchain too. So let's see just how that develops. Now whether the coin is ether is a success, I have no idea. There's a lot of factors in. And just so you know, there's already the platform crypto margin has already said via Twitter that as soon as cryptocurrency adds ether, they will offer the opportunity to short it. Will Pangman. Yeah, it definitely is exciting to see Ethereum out of the blocks and often running. So yeah, I'm very excited to see what auger can do and other such applications being built. Of course, auger prediction markets are very powerful with some liquidity and some real robust security and decentralized using Ethereum. A prediction market could actually take flight. It's really exciting stuff. There are prediction markets in existence and there have been some in the past that had some kind of traction. But they never were able to catch on or regular toy regimes able to shut them down. They just weren't very effective because of low participation, low liquidity. And auger has a chance to change all that. So I know this is a topic about Ethereum, but I'm just kind of pumped to see what Jeremy and his team can do. And of course, you can't buy in and sell or burn ether yet if I'm correct on that. So it's hugely limited in the frontier release at this point. But yeah, Jeremy pointed out it's no longer vaporware and people are going to be flocking to apply the serpent code and other things that Ethereum can do like whisper and so on to all kinds of other applications. Yeah, it brings up a lot of emotions and a lot of people. There's a lot of haters out there and of course a lot of people who think that they've been cheated because they didn't release sooner. And I know last week we gave predictions about when it would be released and I hoped it would be released before the end of the year and here we are. So yeah, it'd be great to see the next step taken where you can trade ether or you can burn ether and where some of these applications, some of the more simple ones, start to get deployed as well. Exit question. Buying ether in the crowd sale was a good decision. Yes or no, Jeremy Garden. I'm not going to ask to be determined, economics of gas fees and such have not yet been figured out. I didn't buy any. I have not bought any since it launched. Nordo, I really intend to for the time being. But it's not a deflationary kind of commodity like Bitcoin is. So I don't think it was a bad decision or a good decision yet. We'll see how kind of the price plays out in the future. CEO, good man. Yeah, of course. of us have a crystal ball, so there is no real clear market price to be determined. However, I would say that if you bought at the crowd sale, you bought at a time, you bought with Bitcoin, and you bought at a time when Bitcoin was, I think, around 600. So in that sense, you might make out okay, just depending on how the price goes. So in that sense, maybe it would have been a good thing. Of course, I own zero. But yeah, let's see what happens and let's see how it works out. Will Penguin. No, buying ether in the crowd sale was not a good idea. Just because of the development timeline and actually the behavior of Ethereum's treasury, not hedging Bitcoin against the declining price of Bitcoin. They kept, to my knowledge, and from what I've heard, they kept a vast majority of what they raised, 18 million or whatever, in Bitcoin, and watched that amount depreciate by as much as the Bitcoin price depreciated. So yeah, that was poorly managed, and they'd have a much longer runway if they had managed that better. We're armchair quarterbacking here, but most people excited about ether probably didn't have the disposable income to buy ether and may have anyway. For whales, for the large investor types, great buy for them. It's very speculative, but great buy for them. The value, it's another one of these plays like Bitcoin. It's a 10,000% upside and 100% downside. You can definitely roll with that if you're deep pockets. So yeah, for the average Joe, it was not a good idea. They took way too long to release. The scope creep happened and all that. So you didn't probably get the value you thought you were going to get in the time you thought. Wills, right. The answer is no. Crowdsales tend to benefit only the people holding the crowd sale. But we'll see if that holds true in the future. Moving on to issue two. Congratulations to our friends at Trees.delivery, who scored a major PRQ this morning with both the stalwart coin desk and the upstart coin telegraph covering the fledgling cannabis delivery service. Now claims to be offering line of sight delivery with drones and discounts for Bitcoin. Theo Goodman, your thoughts on marijuana and Bitcoin. It's a match made in heaven, ladies and gentlemen. It's perfect because you can pay and you know, you can pay not totally anonymously, but you can pay privately, let's say more or less privately. So like cash, I can pay online. I don't have to have an account or something like that to pay with depending on how it's set up. Another thing that is what we're seeing in the, even in the legal weed industry is that banks are unwilling to give a lot of these companies bank accounts. So it makes perfect sense that they just use some kind of cryptocurrency Bitcoin or if they want to use another one that makes perfect sense because they don't have to ask the bank permission in order to have a bank account. So I think that's going to continue to be a trend. Will Pangman. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Marshall Hainer's new company Trees. They've been in existence a real short time and they're already making lots of noise. He was really able to get to market very quickly, which is exciting because this is a huge, I mean, here we are very focused on Bitcoin, but there's a couple other areas in, let's say, technology or innovation that are really ripe and getting lots of investor attention. And the legal cannabis industry is one of them. And certainly, it just, as Theo pointed out, it makes great sense. I'd love to see, I mean, we were joking about it yesterday as all of these news articles and Reddit posts were getting so much traction and Kudos to Marshall, great job getting that visibility. We're joking about, you know, we need to see a drone with like a big placard with a QR code on it flying around with one of those things they have in this stadium that drop one t-shirt at a time, but it could drop like one cube of cannabis at a time and you just, as it's flying around, you can scan the QR code and it'll come delivered to you or there's all kinds of crazy things you can do with this. And what's interesting to me is here you have someone who's a die hard cryptocurrency advocate and a marketing planner who created a non Bitcoin startup and just accepts Bitcoin, right? This is so valuable, as Theo pointed out, to increase the utility of Bitcoin in general, to have Bitcoin, Efficient Auto, fanboys, fan girls, whatever, creating businesses and innovations that only leverage Bitcoin as payment mechanism, but they're providing a new utility in the marketplace, you know, in a burgeoning industry, for example. So I'd like to see more of that, more startups that out of the gates, trumpet their proud to accept Bitcoin, but they're doing a different service than let's say traditional cryptocurrency startups we've seen in the last two years. Jeremy Gardner. All right, small disclaimer, I actually invested in trees, so I'm a bit biased, but I mean, yeah, what everyone said, I mean, marijuana is going to be, I mean, I love Bitcoin, I love the cryptocurrency industry, this is what I do. But the fastest growing industry in that decade is going to be marijuana. We're going to see a large nationwide sweep towards recreational medicinal marijuana, and it's going to be a multi-billion dollar industry beyond what it is now in a very short period of time. It's really exciting. What Marshall, Miko, are doing at trees is one of the best platforms, both from a business standpoint and just from a cannabis standpoint. They're doing just a fantastic job. I've been very emphatic that they kind of focus on making this friendly to Bitcoiners. Miko's the founder of local Bitcoins, and a bit disillusioned with the industry, but I think they've been really pleased with the response they've gotten within the industry. And it's been thrilling to see because I mean, they have the best pod in San Francisco. And it's just like, it's a great team, and I love everything that they're doing, so I couldn't be more supportive of undertaking. Exit question. In the future, would there be more or less integrations between cannabis and Bitcoin? Theo Goodman. More integrations. Will Pangman. Definitely more. Jeremy Gardner. Hopefully only trees. The answer is more. Moving on. Check out purse.io with a brand new redesign and the same savings you've come to love. Buy something with Bitcoin today at purse.io. Spend Bitcoins. Save money with purse. Please support our sponsor. They make this show possible. Issue 3. Can Bitcoin get Taylor Swift to love Spotify? Could Bitcoin micro payments for artists be tracked by the music streaming service to instantly repay for play? Will Bitcoin unite the internet and save the artist? Will Pangman. I don't know about Spotify, but yeah, I'd love to see on demand micro payments enabled for music streaming services. You know, I don't want to subscribe to all these different music streaming services, and I hate that I can only skip ahead three or four songs before they stop that. And I also hate that if I want to find a particular song, I can't just play it on demand with the free version of Pandora and Spotify, right? And I know there are other services that, you know, they definitely don't have the same offering or same options, but they might offer that on demand play for the free version of their app. You know, they have low traction. The winners are clearly right now, Spotify and Pandora, and even Apple music is going to have ways to go to catch up to that. I think for probably four more years, people will still be buying tracks on iTunes and then just using the streaming services that they've already used instead of using Apple Streaming services. It's just my guess. But yeah, if I could on demand pay for a song, pay a quarter, nickel, whatever to hear the song that I want. That's big game changer right there. And that would get a lot of people attracted. If they enabled that with Bitcoin because it's, you know, low overhead, you're able to do it with the micro-transactions, a company doing it, a company like Spotify or Pandora or someone like that, taking that on, would just bring a lot of people just like with the back page situation. I mean, that's like a born out of tragedy, you know, their credit cards get shut down and everyone who wants to use the service has to learn Bitcoin immediately. And so they do. They flock and droves. But there's such friction there that took days for some people to get their ads back up and stuff. They're learning curves, right? So again, this more and more companies like this doing this voluntarily as opposed to say, you know, forced to like in the back page situation will bring so much adoption to Bitcoin and really show the power of it with micro payments on demand music. All right, we're going to go back and issue. We're joined by Marshall Hader from Trees. Hey, Marshall, how's it going? Hey Thomas, thanks for having me. It's great to be on the show again. We just talked about trees. Everyone agrees that marijuana and Bitcoin have a lot more integration coming in the future. And we're all waiting for the day that you can deliver to Theo all the way in Germany with a drone. What's going on at trees? Great things. We're just getting started in the responses. Been really overwhelming. We're what we're trying to do at trees is we're trying to build an amazing cannabis experience. And we're doing that with working with very professional brands and basically disrupting the dispensary model which says, you know, here's the top shelf. But what you really think is the best cannabis in the dispensary really is a C plus at best. So we use the Uber model to disrupt that and bring the best cannabis in the world directly to you because the dispensary screws over the grower and they don't give them a good deal. And we accept Bitcoin and we use crypto currency basically to process most of our online payments. And it's just a dream come true. Now how soon will I be able to order trees at a concert and have it delivered by a drone? Are we pretty close to that? I think so. We're getting pretty close. What we have right now is we have the technology to do it. But the Federal Aviation Administration basically says that if you are to do this, you need a section 333 exemption which basically allows you to fly out of sight and over 400 feet. But they're still not allowing anyone to do any commercial deliveries unfortunately yet. If you have the section 333 exemption, you could theoretically do it but I'm pretty sure you would lose your license pretty quick. Amazon is working to fast track this whole program and most likely by the end of the year we'll start seeing a lot of drones in the air. And Amazon will probably have a system sort of like AWS where you can just kind of deploy it pretty easily. The technology is there. It's just an issue of the government not wanting a lot of drones in the sky. So if only I lived in another country where they didn't mind the sky full of drones, I could get my proper delivery, right? I was cracking up pretty hard getting some of the messages from trees people were asking, hey, can you fly one over to London or in Kentucky? I wish I could. But I'd be breaking a lot of laws to do that. I also like the ideas on Reddit of people sitting on their roofs with telescopes and long range rifles shooting down these drones and then celebrating the contents like a pinata. Oh man, that's like, that's my worst nightmare if we ever go live with that. I think that that would be really bad. I think they were excited just to shoot down drones at first but they got a whole another level of excitement when they knew they'd be filled with weed. It's like wow, this is actually starting to become really worth it to shoot one of these things down. More and more. We'll see how it's going. But now we're going to back to our next issue which is could Bitcoin micro payments for artists save the music industry? Jeremy Garden. Yeah, absolutely. I, micro payments was one of the first winning use cases that I came across when I entered Bitcoin. Really excited me. But right now we don't have the capabilities in the network. We're going to need something like the lightning network to make this possible. Right now micro payments really aren't a real thing on Bitcoin. So there are improvements that need to be made to our protocol. But once they are possible, I think micro payments and streaming services are mashed made and have and along with most forms of digital content online. It's a really robust mechanism for rewarding content creators while still not forcing people to long-term in expensive contracts. And remember the music industry, the industry itself wouldn't have to use micro payments. They could use batching or a system like block cipher and just send the payments when they're large enough. It's just the idea that you can start to calculate at this level and they could truly reward all of their artists instead of just the top level. Theo Goodman. Definitely. Bitcoin is and music is a match very similar to marijuana and Bitcoin. It goes together perfectly. Reduces the friction to pay for a song. You can just scan the QR code. Big shout out to BitTunes and what they're doing. Very interesting app. I hope that succeeds. Big shout out to Pro Tip. Same idea. You just have to have a QR code or a Bitcoin address near your song. And then the people can pay with a micro payment. I think this is the way forward. With songs it just lowers the friction to pay for a song. It's better for everybody. It's better for the artist. It's better for the people that consume the content and we can cut out the middleman and finally we can get rid of these labels and distributors that are doing things that the artists don't want to do. The labels are needed or even distributors but give the artist the money. Marshall Hainer. Can Bitcoin and micro payments save music? I think so but I think the problem is here is that what we see in Bitcoin is that consumer tools right now are very weak. And so I know Will Pangman and AirBits team and Bicellium and some good wallet and block.io. Some really great wallet developers are working on this but it's a lot harder than it sounds. And so until we can fix this problem of getting into Bitcoin easy then we're not going to be able to do this. Because if people can't just add their bank account or just type in their credit card number and they can start micro tipping then it won't work. The problem is that in the US and also in general when it comes to selling Bitcoin's the level of fraud and the level of compliance that you need to have really kills the user experience and a lot of people will agree that Coinbase is the best place to buy your Bitcoin's but simultaneously some of the toughest experience and has a high rate of shutting down accounts. So I do believe that the potential is there but we need an on ramp. We need a real really good on ramp before we can get there. Is it question? What's your favorite Taylor Swift song and what do you think of the new album? Theo Goodman. I love the new album and I listen to it every morning to get going to get motivated for the day and I'd have to say that my favorite song is Shake It Out. Shake It Out or something like that. Will Pangman, very convincing Theo, very convincing. The I grew Theo Shake It Out is definitely my favorite song on that album. It's a pretty great song. It sounds a lot like hey yeah for you young kids out there that's an outcast track but yeah play those two back to back and I don't care that Taylor Swift was inspired by that song if she was or if it was just an accident or if the people who write her songs I don't know. But it's a great pop song for sure. It's a screw those haters. It's the best music a machine can write. Marshall Hainer. I don't know the welcome to New York because I'm from New York so I don't know. I don't really know a lot of Taylor Swift songs to be honest. I know those. I know Shake It Out and welcome to New York. One track one, side one. Jeremy Gardner. Well I really, I mean I love T-Sweb's. I think she's great. I think she's talented. I think she's rude to us. I think she's just absolutely wonderful in every way. I like to think that she really wrote the song I knew you were troubled about me before ever meeting me and I'm just waiting for the moment that you can actually tell me that. So that's that. I'm a big fan of the song Blank Space but in a Swiftian choice I'll have to go with style. Swiftian. That doesn't mean what I think it means anymore. Moving on to issue four. Issue four. Showing that justice in Japan may move slowly but is not dead. Japanese police are said to be preparing to charge Mark Carpellis over the collapse of the famed Magic the Gathering Exchange. Will Pangman, will Carpellis follow Shrem to the Poke follow up question. Are Carpellis and Shrem just the tip of the sphere? Are we beginning to see a trend? Will there be more Bitcoin CEOs in jail? Well, I think Carpellis, if he is charged in the Japanese court, he's very likely to be convicted. I think they have like a 99.7% conviction rate or some psychotically high conviction rate which is probably not justice. Not really if you're accused, you must be guilty. So culturally I'm not sure how that works over there but their conviction rate seems very, very high. If he is charged, he will probably be going to jail. I'm interested in getting to the bottom of the whole like incestuous nature of Bitt Instant Mount Gox Silk Road and like all the stories and maybe uncovering some more players like the Variety Jones character. I mean this saga is so interesting. I think you know, if more of this truth of the story comes out that seems to have been swept under the rug a great deal by these corrupt agents or by Carpellis or Gonzaga or whoever over at Mount Gox or Carpellis's lawyers who are apparently making deals with the Baltimore HSI, who knows. I think we need to get more of this truth out and then we can see you know, about reducing Ross Lover's sentence or even given him a retrial like it's clear he probably deserves. So yeah, I want to hear the rest of the story. I don't think I wouldn't put Charlie Shrem in the same category as Mark Carpellis. Charlie ran a solid business. Charlie had no unhappy, very few unhappy customers. There was a period where Mount Gox went down and so Bitt Instant quickly in like the 48 hours rewrote a lot of their back end to not use Mount Gox or to get around it as well. And everyone was back up. Everyone got their big deliver that was waiting in the, waiting in the lurch there. Charlie ran a stellar business. He tried to work with the regulators. He learned at a young age and very harshly how that when you try to help regulators and you know, think they're going to help you in return the how it goes. So I don't at all put Charlie in the same category as Mark Carpellis who had some very shoddy business practices that led to at worst severe fraud and at best criminal negligence. It's a good point. Well, it will be interesting to finally hear the Mark Carpellis story. What some are calling the greatest story ever told. Marshall Hainer, are you with us? Hey, yeah, sorry, I lost my connection there for a second. What do you think Mark Carpellis? I think that it's, you know, all right, I'm just going to come out with it. I've been saying it since day one and I think that there is more to the story here and everybody knows that there is. But it just seems crazy to me that you could run this whole thing and it gets hacked and then you say, oh, I don't know what happened. It couldn't have possibly have been me. I'm just a good guy. But look at Mark's history. What was Mark doing before Mt. Gox? If you read up and you read the story about how he left France and under the circumstances that he left France, you start to paint a bigger picture of serious problems. And I'm not saying that he did it, but I'm not saying, I'm also saying that it seems unlikely that you could run this business and not know about what something like this going on. Jeremy Gardner. Uh-huh. Nobody I know that's intimate with the Gox Fiesco. Just not believe that Carpellis is not criminally negligent. I mean, I think that's manifest. I think he's actually more accurately criminally eloof. This guy is just on such a different planet. I don't think he meant well. I don't think he meant bad. I think he's just, he's very French. Um, yeah. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. French. Be a good man. I'm just going to, I have to think about that very French thing. What I'm going to say. Yeah. I don't hope anyone goes to jail. I just think this whole idea, the whole structure as we have with justice are pretty crazy to say the least. But I think that he's probably the most likely CEO to go to jail. That I can think of if he is convicted, that's for sure. And like you said, in Japan, they don't just, you know, start a trial with someone unless they think they're going to get them. They don't like to lose. Now my question is, if he goes to jail, who's going to take care of the cats? Think about the kittens, people. Think about the kittens. Exit question, Bitcoin CEOs in trouble. Who's in the biggest trouble? Shrem, Carpeles, or Wild Car, Zappo CEO, Wences, Cesaris? Still, Pagna. Oh, definitely, Mark Carpeles, the amount of money involved alone. Marshall, hey, no. I'm going to have to go with Mark Carpeles because we already know what's going on with Trem and he's going to be out in a little while in a couple of years. But Mark Carpeles, I mean, he stole a half billion dollars. I mean, if he stole, if they find that he did. And from what I'm hearing, it's sort of like the federal government allegedly. Allegedly, right? Sorry, I can't say that he actually did that. But if he did, if he did actually steal that money, yeah, he's going to jail for a long time. And I don't think they fuck around in the, I'm sorry, the Japanese court because, yeah, it's like the federal government United States. If you get indicted by the feds, you're going down. I mean, look what happened to Charlie. Look what happened to Ross. If you get indicted, it's going to be over. And from what I've read about the Japanese legal system, it's not going to probably go very well. You might have to commit Harry Carry. And that's not just a Cubs announcer. Jeremy Gard. I think Charlie definitely has a worse right now. I mean, he's sitting away in a federal penitentiary. He doesn't have a good life. I just sent him some books the other day. But yeah, I mean, in the future perspective, I mean, it's not looking good for Carpella said all. I have a strong feeling Japanese prisons are pretty nice though. So Charlie still may have it worse. We'll see how it plays out. And then things really aren't looking good for Wences. I mean, he's not going to jail, but I mean, as a business, Zappo's not in good water right now. So all of them are bad places. Leo Goodman. I'm going to go with Shrem because we know he is in trouble. He's actually in prison right now. And that's a pretty big deal if you think about it. So I would definitely go with him. We don't know if what's going to happen with this whole Mt. Gox thing. It does look bad for Carpella's, but I'm still going to go with Shrem. Surprise answer. The correct answer is Wences Desaris. This plotline too closely mirrors the plotline of Silicon Valley. He's in danger of becoming a laughing stock and losing his company. I'd worry more about the laughing part first. Moving on to questions and answers. There's still a chance if you'd like to get in your question and we'll see if we can get an answer. Right now we have none, which is great for me because we can make a shorter show and move on to predictions or story of the week. Are you ready, Marshal Hainer, with a prediction or a story of the week which you'll have to come up with right now while I'm stalling? Oh, man. Story of the week definitely goes to trees.delivery for delivering weed with bitcoins and drones. But prediction of the week, man, I don't know. I would have to... Very dramatic way to lose connection during his prediction. Jeremy Gardner. I think I might have lost you guys for a second there. I'll go ahead, Marshal. Are you back? You got a prediction? Yeah, I was just going to say, I think I'm a bit coin bear right now. I think the price might fall a little. We never like that. Jeremy Gardner. Right. Story of the week. So last night, as at the bar, not too identical twins. They were beautiful females. Turns out everything you've seen in movies isn't true. They're just not intense. So that was my lesson of the week. I'm going to go contradict Marshal, say, long bit coin, very bullish for the next two weeks. It was only going up. I mean, it can fall a few dollars. But I'm beyond bullish. Take my word. To the moon and no double-metre girls. Theo Goodman. Yeah, I'm also bullish right now. Has it hinted bullish, let's say? But yeah, I think the chart... I was going to pull up a chart, but you caught me off guard with the prediction. So I'm not ready. I do not have my chart ready. But my prediction is that the Shanghai Stock Exchange has a slight upturn and then continues to dump. Like, we've never seen before freaks everybody in the world out and people figure out, maybe Bitcoin is okay. I mean, doesn't mean that Bitcoin might have some FOMO dumps, let's say, these like $5 moves and one minute or something. But I think that there have been attempts to sell off lately and it's held up pretty well at the 270 to 80 ranges. Healed up pretty well lately. I'm pretty optimistic about that. So as long as that holds up, then it's looking pretty good. Now we have to challenge that 310, 305, all that kind of stuff needs to be challenged again and really busted through. Right now everyone is freaking out and selling around that area. So let's see what happens. Will, Penguin. So, yeah, a story of the week. I guess I don't have a story of the week. I'm going to go with a prediction. Prediction is kind of an echo of the last two predictions, but I think we're going to see, especially in September and onward, as the Bitcoin conference calendar sort of heats up, there's like three or four conferences before the end of the year on the West Coast of the U.S. and there's a big conference in Seoul before the end of the year, Seoul, Seoul, Korea. So all these conferences and all of the action in the geopolitical realm, whether it's in China or Greece or South America or other areas, are going to really start to excite the world about the technological possibilities of Bitcoin and the autonomy and financial independence, you know, wealth protection possibilities of Bitcoin. So between now and the end of the year, we're going to see a lot more agreeable attitudes toward Bitcoin and I probably will be reflected in the price, but this is not a price prediction. And finally, a prediction, everything will be fine. The bad people will get what they deserve. The good people will be rewarded. Bitcoin's transparency is a new path to honesty. Those who have been false to Bitcoin will get their comeuppance. Those who have been true will get their reward. It's not about punishment, it's about justice. We're out of time. Until next time, bye, bye, bye.